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RE: A parentless element that is not the document node - how?

• To: 'Bob Foster' <bob@o...>, Betty Harvey <harvey@e...>, "Roger L. Costello" <costello@m...>
• Subject: RE: A parentless element that is not the document node - how?
• From: "Bullard, Claude L (Len)" <clbullar@i...>
• Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2003 13:44:57 -0500
• Cc: xml-dev@l...

I may have some somewhere because I had the product too. 
I may still have the demo install disks.

It was fabulous particularly for its time.  I used those 
to document several DTDs for Navy documents.

One good thing was that it did enable orphans and these can 
be a product of design in progress. One often designs 
bottom up so the flexibility it enabled for entering 
SGML types was great. You would have to been there 
to understand just how simple-minded or expensive 
most SGML design tools were.  N&F was a real leap.

It was quick, it was windows capable (remember, 
of its time), it gave clear error messages, it enabled 
one to get snapshots of trees for documentation purposes, 
all round, it was useful and non-gnarly.  It was well 
documented and the service organization was there to 
help out with friendly folks.  The designers were deeply 
involved in the Canadian CALS work and improved on the 
CALS designs instead of accepting them uncritically. 
In short, good reliable product from solid folks.  It 
won an award from the CALS group for innovation.

Even if it isn't kosher, there are lots of languages that 
treat a root element as syntax fluff.  

len


From: Bob Foster [mailto:bob@o...]

From: "Betty Harvey" <harvey@e...>
> I really wish that tools like XML Spy and
> Extensibility would provide the same functionality as Near and Far for XML
> Schema's.  Although I don't create DTDs in a graphical tool - Near and Far
> is the greatest QA and presentation tool for a DTD.

Near and Far seems to have been a casualty of the Microstar acquisition.
What was great about it? Does even a screen shot survive?

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