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RE: The subsetting has begun

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• Subject: RE: The subsetting has begun
• From: "Cavnar-Johnson, John" <JCavnar-Johnson@s...>
• Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 13:18:25 -0600
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• In-reply-to: <E18o6wc-0004Ny-00@c...>

As fascinating as this is, what does it have to do with subsetting XML?

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Alaric B. Snell [mailto:alaric@a...]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 1:10 PM
> To: ari@c...
> Cc: Simon St.Laurent; xml-dev@l...
> Subject: Re:  The subsetting has begun
> 
> On Wednesday 26 February 2003 19:00, K. Ari Krupnikov wrote:
> 
> > <!DOCTYPE A [
> >   <!ATTLIST D id ID #IMPLIED>
> >   <!ATTLIST D ref IDREF #IMPLIED>
> > ]>
> > <A>
> >   <B>
> >     <D id="d1">
> >       <any> children D might have, just to make it more
> interesting</any>
> >     </D>
> >   </B>
> >   <C>
> >     <D ref="d1"/>
> >   </C>
> > </A>
> 
> Ah, but that's implementing a form of pointer on top of the underlying
> tree
> structure by nominating a part of the tree - that, otherwise, would
mean
> nothing but that 'id' equalled 'd1' - and giving it some semantics.
> 
> Yet again, unless your program explicitly went to the effort of
matching
> up
> the id references itself, any parser would still show the D within B
and
> the
> D within C to be different elements. Even in XPath, they are
different.
> The
> DTD declares that the second D is linked to the first in some way, but
> doesn't say that this is supposed to be an identity constraint, so it
> still
> doesn't make it a DAG, it merely potentially *suggests* a DAG
viewpoint of
> the tree :-)
> 
> It would be a DAG if, instead of the second D, you could write:
> 
> <?xml-ptr d1?>
> 
> ...with <?xml-ptr?> being defined as being substituted for the element
> whose
> ID is d1 during parsing.
> 
> But anyway! I'm splitting hairs and have been doing so all day! Stop
> baiting
> me! :-)
> 
> ABS
> 
> --
> A city is like a large, complex, rabbit
>  - ARP
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