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I respectfully decline from carrying on what is deteriorating into silly thread of layered misassumptions by people that just like to argue, I guess. I just don't have the time to commit to reading all of it and answering all of it, any longer. Many apologies. thanks, lisa Oren Ben-Kiki wrote: > > Lisa Rein <lisarein@f...> wrote: > > It has been my experience that both: > > > > 1) They put it in the spec if they think of it. > > > > 2) Someone in the group will tell you if you ask them... > > > > 3)I guess my biggest problem with all these complaints about the process > [and lack of rationale] > > is that I, personally, have NEVER had a problem finding out the > > technical nature of anything occurring in a W3C spec. Period... > > > > ... Now, sometimes I don't agree with the rationale, but I don't argue > about > > it. If I wanted to argue about it THAT's when you go to the public > > discussion list and take it from there (and not THIS public discussion > > list, please! This isn't the "my beefs with every W3C spec" list, is > > it? Sometimes I wonder!) > > It seems as though you seriously suggest that the lack of documentation of > the technical process of creating the spec (specifically, the issues, the > alternatives, and the rationale for the adopted solutions) is "OK" since one > can simple E-mail some WG member and ask him to explain it for you. After > all, it works so well for you! > > Please say this is a misreading of your post? > > At any rate, I don't have the E-mail addresses of the XHTML WG members. I > can't officially get these addresses AFAIK. Even if I could, it would not be > practical for them to answer my questions - because they'd be swamped with > the questions of every other interested reader of the draft. Even if they > did somehow manage convey the rationale to all people writing to them, and I > wouldn't agree with the rationale for some specific decision, I could not go > to "another" discussion list - because there typically isn't one, or if > there is it is as full of complaints about the W3C process as this one is. > > And yes, this mailing list _is_ about "my beefs with every (XML related) W3C > spec", between other XML related things, unless someone creates a more > appropriate list for the purpose. If you are aware of one, I'd appreciate > the address. > > The more this thread continues, the more I'm getting convinced there's > something wrong with the W3C. Obviously there is a reason why proper process > documentation is not being provided. The problem is that the simplest reason > is "to hide any shady politics between member companies". Another reason is > "because it would harm the quality of the resulting recommendation" - > obviously absurd, or maybe "it would slow things down too much" which people > in this mailing list are simply not buying, because being able to understand > a recommendation is more important then having it a few months early. Of > course the W3C does not give a reason for why no reasons are given for why > ... and so on. Maybe they are afraid that giving reasons is habit forming > :-) > > Share & Enjoy, > > Oren Ben-Kiki > > xml-dev: A list for W3C XML Developers. To post, mailto:xml-dev@i... > Archived as: http://www.lists.ic.ac.uk/hypermail/xml-dev/ and on CD-ROM/ISBN 981-02-3594-1 > To (un)subscribe, mailto:majordomo@i... the following message; > (un)subscribe xml-dev > To subscribe to the digests, mailto:majordomo@i... the following message; > subscribe xml-dev-digest > List coordinator, Henry Rzepa (mailto:rzepa@i...) xml-dev: A list for W3C XML Developers. To post, mailto:xml-dev@i... Archived as: http://www.lists.ic.ac.uk/hypermail/xml-dev/ and on CD-ROM/ISBN 981-02-3594-1 To (un)subscribe, mailto:majordomo@i... the following message; (un)subscribe xml-dev To subscribe to the digests, mailto:majordomo@i... the following message; subscribe xml-dev-digest List coordinator, Henry Rzepa (mailto:rzepa@i...)
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