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I like this post. Over the years, I have followed XML development in my own idiosyncratic, and partially academic, way. I'm still fascinated by it, in spite the deficiencies in it pointed out by many people. The reason I'm posting this comment, my first, by the way, is that I see a disregard, at times, to how our thoughts evolve and the consequent downplaying of the contribution made by people over the years. I'm a nobody standing on the shoulders of giants! Yogesh Deshpande -----Original Message----- From: Dave Pawson [mailto:davep@dpawson.co.uk] Sent: Monday, 29 November 2010 8:56 PM To: xml-dev@lists.xml.org Subject: Re: James Clark: XML versus the Web When the elders sat down to think about SGML for the web in 1996 whatever, they were staring at a man-mountain, and were looking for an athlete. Compare XML with SGML and it is an efficient subset. Since then, the athlete XML has been asked to do so many jobs that it has had to develop add-ons that weren't needed in 1997 and are making it resemble SGML again in today's world of the web. What we have today is a technology that can do most of what we ask, but is completing the circle and becoming over-sized due to all the add-ons, sticking plasters etc., just as was SGML when viewed through the eyes of the web. So why can't we just take the existing ideas and mould them into another athlete fit for today's tasks? We can, but need the motivation to do it. That motivation is referred to in James post. HTML5 and JSON don't need XML. It's industry and corner cases that need the extra muscle that XML picked up from SGML. For 80% of its usage it simply presents baggage which isn't needed. S-XML (speedy/slim/standard) could build on James ideas, incorporate the useful aspects of JSON (see Ricks post) and be reborn as a 2010 athlete, again fit for purpose. As did XML in 1997, leave XML and its family in the corner for those who need its bulk, and see if we can create SXML as the younger sibling, fit and well for today's tasks. -- regards -- Dave Pawson XSLT XSL-FO FAQ. http://www.dpawson.co.uk _______________________________________________________________________ XML-DEV is a publicly archived, unmoderated list hosted by OASIS to support XML implementation and development. To minimize spam in the archives, you must subscribe before posting. [Un]Subscribe/change address: http://www.oasis-open.org/mlmanage/ Or unsubscribe: xml-dev-unsubscribe@lists.xml.org subscribe: xml-dev-subscribe@lists.xml.org List archive: http://lists.xml.org/archives/xml-dev/ List Guidelines: http://www.oasis-open.org/maillists/guidelines.php
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