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RE: To namespace or not to Namespace ....

• From: "Dowling, Nora M." <ndowling@mitre.org>
• To: David <dlee@calldei.com>, "xml-dev@l..." <xml-dev@l...>
• Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 13:56:30 -0400

FWIW, I actually like that you always know where an XML construct is coming from.  That way, you are sure that paragraph is paragraph is paragraph no matter what type of document you are editing. Or at least that it is Common's paragraph and not anybody else's. And with XML namespaces, there's no reason you couldn't change the prefixes to something shorter, e.g., t1:, c:, l:, etc. 

-Nora Dowling

-----Original Message-----
From: David [mailto:dlee@calldei.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 1:43 PM
To: xml-dev@lists.xml.org
Subject: Re:  To namespace or not to Namespace ....

Good point Liam, the "hating you" part I forgot.  Your right.
If the XML has to look like

<type1:section>
<common:paragraph>Paragraph <linking:alink/> text </common:paragraph>
</type1:section>

Instead of

<section>
<paragraph>Paragraph <alink/> text </paragraph>
</section>


They (and I) *will* hate me.

Ug.

Can this be done by an inclusion at the XSD level ?
So I can atleast get code reuse ?
If not even "documentation reuse" would be useful, that is "document" 
the fact that various tags are "shared" across schemas even if its not 
semantically enforced.







-------------------------
David A. Lee
dlee@calldei.com
http://www.calldei.com
http://www.xmlsh.org


On 4/7/2010 1:33 PM, Liam R E Quin wrote:
> On Wed, 2010-04-07 at 13:15 -0400, David wrote:
>    
>> [...]
>>      
>    
>>   For example all the schemas have a concept of
>> linking, a concept of paragraphs etc ... while the majority of the
>> structure is domain specific, it would be nice to share the common parts.
>> Which all roads leads to ....
>>
>> Namespaces !!!!
>>      
> In the SGML world it generally led to a shared element pool, as Eve
> Maler liked (likes?) to call it.
>
> Once you make authors deal with
>      <spec1:section>
>        <common:title>..</common:title>
>        <spec2:topic>
>          <common:purpose>
>            <common:paragraph>
>            <spec2:step>
>             <spec9:part-number>...
> they will hate you and make you wear shoes for the rest of your life.
>
> But you are right, it's technically possible. In many programming
> languages, namespaces would let you say,
>
>      import common;
>      import section from spec1;
>      import topic, step from spec2;
>      import part-number from spec9;
>
> and then use unqualified names. That sort of functionality can be a
> great help, but it is not what XML namespaces do today.
>
> Liam
>
>    

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