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Re: RE: Declarative programming requires a different mindset

• From: Max Toro <maxtoroq@gmail.com>
• To: "xml-dev@lists.xml.org" <xml-dev@lists.xml.org>
• Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2010 15:15:07 -0400

>  "XHTML is a declarative programming language."
>
> It's not a programming language.

Why not? it's write-only. You are telling the computer what to do. You
can save it and execute it later.
--
Max

2010/4/10 Michael Ludwig <milu71@gmx.de>:
> Hi Roger,
>
> Costello, Roger L. schrieb am 10.04.2010 um 13:28:52 (-0400)
> [ RE: Declarative programming requires a different mindset]:
>>
>> I continue to explore the declarative programming mindset. I've had a
>> few more insights. I realized, for example, that XML Schema, RELAX NG,
>> and Schematron are declarative programming languages.
>
> The schema languages you're listing here are certainly declarative in
> that you declare what you want your data to look like (instead of
> painstakingly write code to walk your data and check each bit of it,
> which is what the processor does for you), but they simply aren't
> programming languages.
>
>> I wrote a summary of my insights:>  "XHTML is a declarative programming language."
>
> It's not a programming language.
>>
>> http://www.xfront.com/XML-Declarative-Programming/
>>
>> I welcome your comments.
>

>
> In my own and personal experience, any insight into high-level concepts
> such as "declarativeness" has only emerged after considerable practice,
> as the result of going wrong, getting stuff done, leaning back, maybe
> reflecting on things, maybe just experiencing a revelation.
>
> Personally, again, I would say that it's okay to proceed like that: Work
> and practice, don't care too much about theoretical insight; it will
> eventually come to you just naturally as the result of reflection once
> you've practiced enough.
>
> But YMMV, of course :-)
> --
> Michael Ludwig
>
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