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 From: Robin Berjon [mailto:robin.berjon@e...] On Jun 06, 2006, at 20:25, Bullard, Claude L ((Len)) wrote: > Except microformats are a bit of Hytime: the arch forms. >As one of those brats who isn't aware computing existed before XML did, I am bound to ask: "What isn't?" :) Nothing of importance. Well... Not quite true. The real-time aspects of Hytime didn't get much play although that was originally why it attracted my attention: I was looking for a timing model for real time systems (think, the equivalent of a musical sequencer) for project/product planning. Remember that Hytime starts out in a musical notation standard. We did end up with that but from the orchestration/choreography models. In the 80s, that was considered radical. Now it's just BizTalk. > Interesting: given all of the various projects over the years, if one > started with SGML again looking at the various projects, what would > the subset be today? Or would it be a superset now (SGML almost had a > binary but the roof blew in just as that was happening)? >Given how much heat there's been around both subsetting XML and an equivalent efficient syntax for it, I wonder how far >from consensus we'd be now, ten years down the lane. Enough of XML to capture an infoset comprising Document, Element, >Attribute, Characters, Comments, and perhaps PIs and entity references, but no more? Binary as a separate syntax with > pretty much the same stuff? Or with a little extra super simple typing? That is what I wonder too. But there is only a short freefall before things have to be useful or they become complex again. Strange: complexity really is advanced entropy. Hmmm... At some point, 'a byte must change state' as Charles would say. So once there was enough agreement on XML, the coding began and then the investments have to be recouped before another round of speculative standardization can get going. It is like Google and much else: the thinking occurs in the excess capacity of the system. >I never quite found out what had happened to SGML-B, the available online docs indicate an intention, and then some form >of ELE seems to have happened. I think it died with the web like much advanced research does: no funding. len 
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