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  • To: "Richard Salz" <rsalz@u...>,"Andrew S. Townley" <andrew.townley@b...>
  • Subject: RE: Did Documents Win? No. Objects Just Couldn't GetTheir Act Together.
  • From: "Bullard, Claude L \(Len\)" <len.bullard@i...>
  • Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 08:41:43 -0600
  • Cc: "Jeffrey Winter" <JeffreyWinter@c...>,"Michael Champion" <michael.champion@h...>,<xml-dev@l...>
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  • Thread-topic: Did Documents Win? No. Objects Just Couldn't GetTheir Act Together.

confederated federated training
Agreed.  If the network definitions are semantically simple, 
the communications load is in the resource definitions and 
negotiations of the meaning of signs (from a semiotic perspective).

I think it comes down to explaining that network definitions 
(verbs for schlepping stuff) are never *meaningful*.  It's like 
asking your mailman to do your taxes instead of moving the 
form to the IRS and bringing the payment back.  (We may have some 
fun later merging this thread into Pragmatics (not what 
Box is talking about but the subfield of linguistics)).

Why Federated instead of Confederated?  In other words, if 
REST is Federated naming, you are saying it is centrally 
administered.  I'd say it is Confederated because the 
meaningful names are in the packages, not the types of 
the envelopes.

len


From: Richard Salz [mailto:rsalz@u...]

> But I think the hardest thing to understand about REST isn't the
> semantics of the operations per se, but how exactly to define what the
> resource is so that the operations make sense.

Yes, naming in distributed systems has long been recognized as a a very 
important, subtle, and hard problem.

I used to say REST is just federated naming, but nobody understood me.

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