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Fwd: The XPath/XQuery juggernaut (Was: limits of the generic)

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• Subject: Fwd: The XPath/XQuery juggernaut (Was: limits of the generic)
• From: AndrewWatt2000@a...
• Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2002 04:10:11 EDT
• Cc: liam@w...

<PRE>[Liam seems unable to successfully subscribe/post to XML-Dev so I am 
forwarding this.]

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• To: AndrewWatt2000@a...
• Subject: Re: The XPath/XQuery juggernaut (Was: limits of the generic)
• From: Liam Quin <liam@w...>
• Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 12:53:28 -0400
• Cc: jeni@j..., xml-dev@l...
• In-reply-to: <50.12831888.2acaeb71@a...>; from AndrewWatt2000@a... on Tue, Oct 01, 2002 at 08:13:37AM -0400
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On Tue, Oct 01, 2002 at 08:13:37AM -0400, AndrewWatt2000@a... wrote:
> The more scrutiny that W3C specs receive at early stages of development the 
> better. When frustrating pseudo-consultations become the norm, the W3C can't 
> be surprised when those who might usefully comment choose to make better use 
> of their time than provide input which will be ignored.

Every comment sent on w3 drafts, at any stage, *is* read, and the WG
chairs must show that the comment was responded to, and the original
commentator satisfied as far as is possible.  So yes, please *do*
send comments.

> Hopefully Liam will recognise the need for version 2 and later of XML specs 
> to authentically consult the relevant user communities.

It's sometimes really hard to identify who that is.  I actually think
that for XPath 2, Mike Kay has really worked hard on doing that, and
is a loud and clear voice in the working groups.  He is respected
for that, and listened to, and does not misuse that.

For XML Query, I think Jonathan Robie and Michael Rys have both made
similar efforts on xml-dev and at conferences, and Paul Cotton has
worked hard to try and get people involved.

If I can figure out how to post to xml-dev and have the posts get
through, I'll be more visible too, but so far my best guess is that
posts with sender matching "Liam.*Quin" are deleted by a filter at
the mailing list server :-)

But, is there really a single XML Community?  I think there are a
lot of communities.  For example, part of XPath's target userbase
is people who you might meet at Oracle or SQL Server conferences.

As for early scrutiny, a first draft of hlink was made public;
sounds like we can't win.

Liam

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Liam Quin, W3C XML Activity Lead, liam@w...

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