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 And that isn't really hard to do. If we step back from the XMLness of it and look at the application we are building, it is not too hard to show why XML is benefitting us. On the other hand, if we step back and realize XML got applied just because it was there, that project has a problem. That is the fear of asking the question, the fear of introspection at the local level. So, does XML thrive based on very large specifications for document vocabularies that take years to complete, or does it thrive based on system to system communications worked out during the implementation of the interfaces? Both, but one is a slow wheel and the other is fast. The first has to be sold top down; the second just gets built. XML can absolutely work with the bigLangs, but small scopes better, faster, and the learning curve if awkward is still moving forward. My problem with the "Is XML useful?" articles is they have to say for what before I can answer. Otherwise, we will say yes, take their money, and they have no recourse except to whine about it in USA Today. Caveat emptor. len From: Mike Champion [mailto:mc@x...] 5/22/2002 9:17:35 AM, "Bullard, Claude L (Len)" <clbullar@i...> wrote: >Tools aren't what we lack. Applications are what we lack. > ... [XML] makes no sense >to the CEO out of the box except to say "well, everyone is doing it" and >that is precisely the hyped stupidity that got SGML in trouble, object-oriented >programming in trouble, AI in trouble and a lot of otherwise valuable but >almost failed emerging tech. I guess that's the answer to my question in a nutshell. "What's wrong" is that XML/Web developers and advocates got used to life in the "everyone is doing it, me too!" era, and we now live in a "I'll buy it it has a substantial short term velue" era. "What is to be done" is that we have to "sell" (literally or figuratively) the tools by pointing to the successful applications that they built, not by appealing to the fearof not being on the Next Big Thing bandwagon. That means that we have to justify the XML specs in terms of tangible practical benefit to users rather than "wouldn't be cool if we could ..." or "we all know that the Right Thing is to ...". ----------------------------------------------------------------- The xml-dev list is sponsored by XML.org <http://www.xml.org>, an initiative of OASIS <http://www.oasis-open.org> The list archives are at http://lists.xml.org/archives/xml-dev/ To subscribe or unsubscribe from this list use the subscription manager: <http://lists.xml.org/ob/adm.pl> 
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