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RE: RFC: Attributes and XML-RPC

• From: "Erik James Freed" <ejfreed@i...>
• To: "Steven Livingstone" <ceo@c...>, "'XML Dev'" <xml-dev@i...>
• Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 16:16:45 -0700

That is an excellent implementation versus modeling language distinction. It
is more efficient to use
attributes but much more efficient still to go to binary formats which
hopefully we can all agree are intensely unreadable :-)

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-xml-dev@i... [mailto:owner-xml-dev@i...]On Behalf Of
> Steven Livingstone
> Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 1999 3:43 PM
> To: 'XML Dev'
> Subject: Re: RFC: Attributes and XML-RPC
>
>
> > Would it not also be true that using attributes rather than elements can
> > also be more efficient in certain situations?
> >
> > In XML messaging for example, would it not be more efficient to use
> > attributes accross the wire.
> >
> > Consider
> >
> > <person>
> >     <name>Steven
> >     </name>
> >     <age>24
> >     <age>
> >     <height>1.87
> >     </height>
> >     <iq>7
> >     </iq>
> > </person>
> >
> > and an equivalent with attributes
> > <person name="Steven" age="24" height="1.87" iq="7">
> >
> >
> > The first has 79 characters and the second has 52. If we transferred 10
> > peoples information accross the wires, we would need 270 "redundant"
> > characters (2700 with 100 persons) !! 10 persons *is not* a lot of data
> for
> > the applications I often write.
> >
> > In the world of transferring data across the wire, this may be pretty
> > important, especially with the recent converstions on XML-bin
> (binary XML)
> > and the desire to speed up XML.
> >
> > Does <i>everyone</i> disagree?
> >
> > Cheers
> > Steven
> >
> > Steven Livingstone
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> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Don Park <donpark@d...>
> > To: <xml-dev@i...>
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 1999 6:11 PM
> > Subject: RE: RFC: Attributes and XML-RPC
> >
> >
> > > It is true that attributes are redundant in a sense but they are far
> from
> > > useless.
> > >
> > > Its unobtrusive nature helps solve problems like XML
> Namespace.  As Tim
> > > mentioned, it does enhance readability.  DTD is a lot more friendly to
> > > attributes.  With attributes, you can enforce 'just-once' constraint
> > without
> > > schema.  XHTML would look awefully funny without attributes.  The list
> > goes
> > > on and on.
> > >
> > > Redundancy seems like a waste until one ends up between a rock and a
> hard
> > > place.
> > >
> > > Best,
> > >
> > > Don Park    -   mailto:donpark@d...
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