[XML-DEV Mailing List Archive Home] [By Thread] [By Date] [Recent Entries] [Reply To This Message] Some notes on process: F2F & telcon & email
Just data points, to help fuel this (useful) discussion. I'm particularly impressed by contributions that contain proposals for change that are concrete and achievable in the real world, particularly unimpressed by w3c-is-the-empire-and-Berners-Lee-is-Darth flames. 1. XML 1.0 was developed by email and telecon almost completely without benefit of face-2-face meetings. Both modes of communication were essential. 2. XML 1.0 was a guerilla project by a bunch of people who'd known each other for years and very few of whom had management that understood what it was really about. 3. The DOM makes heavy use of face-2-face meetings. 4. The DOM WG is largely populated by senior engineers who are totally overcommitted and find difficulty, when at work, focusing on anything not about work. 5. Don Park's characterization of a WG face-2-face runs strongly counter to my experience. What was your sample size, Don? 6. The heaviest rudeness and the highest level of bad behavior and time-wasting take place in email. 7. It is ethically unacceptable to have all the f2f meetings in North America, and insanely costly (in money and person-time) to have them elsewhere. 8. Wide variance in dynamics and work style from WG to WG is the rule, not the exception. 9. The personality and style of the chair, W3C contact, and editors has a strong influence on dynamics and work style. 10. The #1 problem in the process is lack of bandwidth from key people. 11. People who first show up in the public mailing lists regularly graduate to IG membership, WG memership, and chair/editor status. Examples without thinking too hard would be David Megginson, John Cowan, and James Tauber. 12. 2 or 3 years ago, most WGs had chairs and editors who were W3C staff. These days (particularly in the XML activity) the chairs and editors come from the membership, and to a disproportionate degree, from the ranks of invited experts. -Tim xml-dev: A list for W3C XML Developers. To post, mailto:xml-dev@i... Archived as: http://www.lists.ic.ac.uk/hypermail/xml-dev/ and on CD-ROM/ISBN 981-02-3594-1 To (un)subscribe, mailto:majordomo@i... the following message; (un)subscribe xml-dev To subscribe to the digests, mailto:majordomo@i... the following message; subscribe xml-dev-digest List coordinator, Henry Rzepa (mailto:rzepa@i...)
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