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Re: WSIO vs. Semantic Web

  • To: "Dare Obasanjo" <oludareo2@m...>,"Mark Seaborne" <MSeaborne@o...>,<xml-dev@l...>
  • Subject: Re: WSIO vs. Semantic Web
  • From: Alaric Snell <alaric@a...>
  • Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 17:20:16 +0000
  • In-reply-to: <8BD7226E07DDFF49AF5EF4030ACE0B7E05573B35@r...>
  • References: <8BD7226E07DDFF49AF5EF4030ACE0B7E05573B35@r...>

er vs semantic object
On Wednesday 13 February 2002 16:56, Dare Obasanjo wrote:
> This semantic web that you describe reminds me of all the hype about how
> XML would make search engines smarter because it allowed people to add
> metadata to words in documents.

Yep!

> However, no one explained how the author
> of the document would know to tag all data in the document in a manner
> that would satisfy all search engines. For instance, a search for "Dare
> Obasanjo" could be looking for me in many contexts, it could be
> searching for Dare the former teaching assistant at GA Tech, Dare the
> poster to XML-DEV, Dare the Microsoft employee, or Dare the author of
> articles that have appeared in various places online. So now is the onus
> on me to tag my name with all the aforementioned metadata and more
> whenever I enter information about myself?

Personally, I'd do something like defining a nice namespace with some special 
attributes and elements in it that could be inserted into documents in such a 
way that processors not interested in those elements just ignore them (as is 
done in RDDL embedded in XHTML), such as:

<html xmlns:semweb="...">

 <semweb:relate type="urn:standard-relations:like-enjoy-affection">
  <p>Alaric likes cats</p>
  <semweb:object>
   mailto:alaric@a...
  </semweb:object>
  <semweb:object>
   urn:standard-group-nouns:living/feline/domesticated
  </semweb:object>
 </semweb:relate>
</html>

Those libraries of common concepts in a nice convenient set of URN namespaces 
is pretty crucial to making the thing hang together.

The existence of XHTML (the <p> element) inside the semweb:relate can be used 
by intelligent software to present a comment or annotation for this 
relationship. It also seems logical to associate the informal English 
specification of the relationship with the formal one.

Such a relation could also be embedded around some SVG that happened to draw 
an arrow between two objects. The objects themselves could be embedded in 
<semweb:represents object="..."> elements, where the '...' is the URN of the 
actual object represented by that SVG shape... imagine the above assertion 
about me and cats expressed as an ER diagram.

ABS

-- 
                               Alaric B. Snell
 http://www.alaric-snell.com/  http://RFC.net/  http://www.warhead.org.uk/
   Any sufficiently advanced technology can be emulated in software  

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