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• To: "Gavin Thomas Nicol" <gtn@r...>,"xml-dev" <xml-dev@l...>
• Subject: RE: Why would MS want to make XML break on UNIX, Perl, Python, etc ?
• From: "Michael Fitzgerald" <mike@w...>
• Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 11:44:50 -0800
• Importance: Normal
• In-reply-to: <E16HTf7-0000pf-00@s...>

Well file (3.37) under Cygwin says

foo.xml: XML document text

so it must just be good old XML, right? What's the big problem here? %^}

Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: Gavin Thomas Nicol [mailto:gtn@r...]
Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 9:39 AM
To: xml-dev@l...
Subject: Re:  Why would MS want to make XML break on UNIX,
Perl, Python, etc ?


On Friday 21 December 2001 09:13 am, Champion, Mike wrote:
> Right. That's why these various "death of text" and "can't edit with a
text
> editor" and "breaking Unix" threads mystify me: XML 1.0 opened the door to
> all these problems. If folks have gotten by just fine using their ASCII
> tools with XML 1.0, that's not likely to change with 1.1.  OK, so you
COULD
> get an XML 1.1 (as drafted) document with  NELs rather than LFs or various
> control characters in it that may confuse vi or sed or more.  I can't
> imagine that these tools handle UTF-16 gracefully, so people who are
> getting by with ASCII tools are getting by because of CONVENTIONS, not
> STANDARDS.

True enough. The case you're arguing for though is that all text processing
tools need to change. In the long run, you may be right.

FWIW. let's stop making this a theoretical thing. I've attached a file that
I
think should be a well-formed XML 1.1 document, assuming ESC and other
control characters are allowed, encoded in US-ASCII (or UTF-8). Play with it
a bit, and tell me what you think. Try doing a "cat foo.xml" on a Unix box,
or "more foo.xml". Open it in emacs, and save it.

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