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RE: Why would MS want to make XML break on UNIX, Perl, Pytho

  • To: "Gavin Thomas Nicol" <gtn@r...>,"xml-dev" <xml-dev@l...>
  • Subject: RE: Why would MS want to make XML break on UNIX, Perl, Python, etc ?
  • From: "Michael Fitzgerald" <mike@w...>
  • Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 11:44:50 -0800
  • Importance: Normal
  • In-reply-to: <E16HTf7-0000pf-00@s...>

perl making xml
Well file (3.37) under Cygwin says

foo.xml: XML document text

so it must just be good old XML, right? What's the big problem here? %^}


-----Original Message-----
From: Gavin Thomas Nicol [mailto:gtn@r...]
Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 9:39 AM
To: xml-dev@l...
Subject: Re:  Why would MS want to make XML break on UNIX,
Perl, Python, etc ?

On Friday 21 December 2001 09:13 am, Champion, Mike wrote:
> Right. That's why these various "death of text" and "can't edit with a
> editor" and "breaking Unix" threads mystify me: XML 1.0 opened the door to
> all these problems. If folks have gotten by just fine using their ASCII
> tools with XML 1.0, that's not likely to change with 1.1.  OK, so you
> get an XML 1.1 (as drafted) document with  NELs rather than LFs or various
> control characters in it that may confuse vi or sed or more.  I can't
> imagine that these tools handle UTF-16 gracefully, so people who are
> getting by with ASCII tools are getting by because of CONVENTIONS, not

True enough. The case you're arguing for though is that all text processing
tools need to change. In the long run, you may be right.

FWIW. let's stop making this a theoretical thing. I've attached a file that
think should be a well-formed XML 1.1 document, assuming ESC and other
control characters are allowed, encoded in US-ASCII (or UTF-8). Play with it
a bit, and tell me what you think. Try doing a "cat foo.xml" on a Unix box,
or "more foo.xml". Open it in emacs, and save it.


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