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Re: Editor that is easy to use, generates XML under thehood, a

  • From: Peter Flynn <peter@silmaril.ie>
  • To: xml-dev@lists.xml.org
  • Date: Sun, 28 May 2023 14:19:19 +0100

Re:  Editor that is easy to use
On 28/05/2023 13:51, Simon St.Laurent wrote:
On 5/27/2023 4:36 PM, Peter Flynn wrote:
(3) the generated XML is easy to understand.
This decision is not the sponsor's to take, especially if they are not
familiar with XML. The generated (I prefer the word "captured") XML
must be easy to PROCESS; its comprehensibility by unaided and inexpert
humans is of secondary importance. It is often hard to convince
funding agents of this.
I have to disagree. Some of the worst and most ubiquitous XML formats
out there - pretty much anything Apple's done and the generally hideous
OfficeXML - focused on processing, fitting with programmer expectations,
and working with existing obscure object model foundations.  Hiding them
behind tools has only made this worse.

Processing is important, yes, but we absolutely need to value human
comprehensibility to stay out of various flaming dungheaps. (The same
issues apply to URIs and a wide variety of other things that computers
use and humans regularly encounter.)
Yes, in the general sense you are perfectly correct — we have enough
steaming piles of markup ordure to deal with already. But in the more
restricted sense of the original parameters, the sponsors should be
technologically-aware enough to understand that making the generated XML
easy for THEM to understand may not be the most effective measure to use.

It's interesting that the way this condition is phrased appears to
assume that "the generated XML" is going to be some strange specialist
vocabulary invented for the nonce by the editor's developers. I would
hope that no developers of an editor to be used for standards would take
it upon themselves to reinvent such a wheel without a parallel massive
investment in international research into the requirements.

Funny things, standards requests :-)

Peter


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