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Hi, On Sun, 28 May 2023 10:57:37 -0400 B Tommie Usdin <btusdin@mulberrytech.com> wrote: > Nobody is saying you have to maintain sites for non-geeks. You can address > and serve the population that interests you. > right. > The population you care about is not the same as the population that > interests me. You have decided to exclude from your consideration people you > characterize as "wilfully-ignorant, non-geeky, non-hackery". The population I > consider influential, attractive, and growing, includes many people who have > no knowledge of, interest in, or patience for, many of things I find > interesting and important and who put their energies in other places. > i dont think every knowledge I acquired and still retain as essential. but I think English, py3 and XML / X/HTML5 are. And the latter two are not2hard to learn. > -- Tommie > > > > On May 28, 2023, at 7:57 AM, Shlomi Fish <shlomif@shlomifish.org> wrote: > > > > hi all, > > > > On Sun, 28 May 2023 07:31:31 +0100 > > Michael Kay <mike@saxonica.com> wrote: > > > >> Actors always have to be reminded when playing Hamlet that there is at > >> least one person in the audience who doesn't know the plot. > >> > >> I think you are far too complacent about what constitutes universal > >> knowledge. It might be true that everyone in the English-speaking world > >> over a certain age knows who Marilyn Monroe was, but how many teenagers in > >> China know? > >> > > > > this seems like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman or its > > inverse. as a 6-12 y.o. in telaviv, i had to learn that 9+3 = 12, which > > Gauss knew when he was 4. > > https://www.shlomifish.org/meta/FAQ/#website_in_english > > > > maintaining drupal/wordprress/etc. sites for non-geeks will drain my time, > > energy, passion, and money. > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ars_longa,_vita_brevis . > > > >> Contrariwise, I've come across Americans who assume that it is universal > >> knowledge how many cents make a dime, or what age a child is when they > >> reach 5th grade, and such assumptions just show how little they know of > >> the world. > >> > >> Michael Kay > >> > >> > >>> On 28 May 2023, at 03:38, Shlomi Fish <shlomif@shlomifish.org> wrote: > >>> > >>> Hi all, > >>> > >>> On Sat, 27 May 2023 08:34:38 -0400 > >>> B Tommie Usdin <btusdin@mulberrytech.com> wrote: > >>> > >>>>> On May 27, 2023, at 12:26 AM, Shlomi Fish <shlomif@shlomifish.org> > >>>>> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> I have a hypothesis that such wilfully-ignorant, non-geeky, non-hackery, > >>>>> people are becoming less influential, less attractive, and rarer ... > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> I am of a different opinion. > >>>> > >>>> There are far too many knowable things for anyone to have deep knowledge > >>>> of all of them. Some people choose to know a little about many things > >>>> (generalists), some people choose to know a lot about a few things > >>>> (specialists). Generalists seem to have an easier time in life than > >>>> specialists. Specialists seem to be the people who get important things > >>>> done. Slighting specialists because they are not generalists (or > >>>> specialists in some topic other than their specialty) is unhelpful; > >>>> insisting that they make the time and devote the energy to learn skills > >>>> outside their area of expertise is an effort to dilute their genius, and > >>>> likely to fail. > >>> > >>> I discussed generalism vs. specialism in "sherlock holmes about Awk": > >>> https://shlomifish.livejournal.com/1991.html . noone can or should be a > >>> 100% specialist unless you expect people to forget that 1+1=2, or that > >>> there are 12 months in a year. "One does not simply not Know who Marilyn > >>> Monroe is" [ > >>> https://www.shlomifish.org/humour/image-macros/indiv-nodes/not_know_marilyn_monroe.xhtml > >>> ]: > >>> > >>> [[ > >>> > >>> Some have not heard of Sarah Bernhardt, or Sarah Michelle Gellar, or Ava > >>> Gardner, or whoever, but everyone has heard of Monroe. > >>> > >>> She is, in a sense, a litmus test. > >>> > >>> ]] > >>> > >>> I know vim/vi fairly well, but dont consider it essential knowledge given > >>> text is text, and there are many other text editors. > >>> > >>> OTOH, I dont know how to cook because I earn much more than 100 USD/day. > >>> > >>>> To circle back to the discussion of why standards are written in XML: > >>>> I want the geeky hackery people to make it so easy to do things we know > >>>> will be long-term helpful (such as create standards in tractable, > >>>> long-term stable formats) that the specialists can do it without knowing > >>>> anything about it. -- Shlomi Fish https://www.shlomifish.org/ Original Riddles - https://www.shlomifish.org/puzzles/ Chuck Norris does not keep any numbers on his mobile phone’s address book. Instead, he memorised the entire phone directory. — https://www.shlomifish.org/humour/bits/facts/Chuck-Norris/ Please reply to list if it's a mailing list post - https://shlom.in/reply .
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