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Re: Invisible XML 1.0 spec has been published

  • From: Micah Dubinko <micah@dubinko.info>
  • To: Roger L Costello <costello@mitre.org>
  • Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2022 12:50:16 -0400

Re:  Invisible XML 1.0 spec has been published
Well, choosing something 100x more powerful than your needs is often a poor choice… Principle of Least Power and all that.

Does anyone remember Rick Jelliffe’s project, circa 2008, to interpret Wiki markup as XML? I ended up (with permission) porting it to Python… https://sourceforge.net/projects/pyxmlwiki/

Speaking of prior art, I wonder what happened from the Balisage 2010 contest about solving the wiki language problem. https://dubinko.info/blog/2010/05/balisage-contest-solving-the-wikiml-problem/

Anyway, this is an interesting area. I might be interested in cooking up a Rust implementation of ixml…

-m

> On Jun 10, 2022, at 11:54 AM, Roger L Costello <costello@mitre.org> wrote:
> 
> Playing devil's advocate here ...
> 
> Invisible XML is all about converting a non-XML data format to XML. There are two problems with that:
> 
> 1. There already exists a standard technology, with Apache open source tooling, to do that. It's called Data Format Description Language (DFDL). As best as I can tell, DFDL is 100 times more powerful than Invisible XML. Plus, DFDL builds on top of existing XML technologies -- XML Schema and XPath. Why reinvent the wheel, a weaker wheel at that?
> 
> 2. From my cursory skimming of the Invisible XML specification, it appears that a user has to create a parser for the non-XML data format. If I have to spend the time to create a parser for a data format, I probably will also spend a bit more time writing code to process the parsed data directly. No need to introduce an additional step to convert to XML. 
> 
> /Roger
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