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Re: What does it mean to say that XML was over-engineered?

  • From: John Cowan <johnwcowan@gmail.com>
  • To: "Liam R. E. Quin" <liam@fromoldbooks.org>
  • Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2021 08:18:05 -0400

Re:  What does it mean to say that XML was over-engineered?


On Wed, Sep 15, 2021 at 2:22 PM Liam R. E. Quin <liam@fromoldbooks.org> wrote:
 
Nor i.  MicroXML quietly died as far as i can tell.

MicroXML isn't dead, it's just _finished_.  I usually say this about software to people who think a program that hasn't been changed in two months, or years, or whatever, is "dead".  My favorite example is the command-line utility `cal`, which hasn't changed (except for internationalization and titlecasing) since 1979.

Similarly, microxml
doesn't do attribute value normalization, so different atrtribute
values will be reported. At an API level that makes both XML 1.1 and
microxml a non-starter.

Technically.  The only time that CDATA attribute normalization ever affected any documents I was working with, it was working against me.  Some upstream system was encapsulating whole RFC 822 emails in XML attributes, and of course when they came out of XML format again they were no longer RFC 822 because all the headers were smashed together with the body.  I got back to the perpetrators and told them to put emails in an element or else.  They did.

So, you drop DTDs, and internal  subsets, and now you need a
replacement for internal text entities like eacute, that's
translatable(&éague; instead  of&eacute;)

Or you get a real keyboard driver and type é.
  
We've got what we've got - let's agree to cherish it for its strengths
and make good use of it.

 IPv4 is still essential and probably always will be, but without IPv6 it would have been impossible to put all the cell phones in the world on the Web.  Even the most cherished standards end up being inadequate to the task eventually.


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