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Re: Change the declarative markup story

  • From: Rick Jelliffe <rjelliffe@allette.com.au>
  • To: XML Developers List <xml-dev@lists.xml.org>
  • Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2019 12:58:19 +1100

Re:  Change the declarative markup story
Isn't this just the old W3C stance that universal addressability is the important thing (e.g. URLs)?

If information is so important, why include PDF in the list, which kinda is the opposite of information organized by a schema: it is a program organized as arbitrary functions?

Rick


On Tue, Jan 22, 2019 at 10:59 AM Liam R. E. Quin <liam@fromoldbooks.org> wrote:
On Sun, 2019-01-20 at 12:19 +0000, Costello, Roger L. wrote:
> What do you mean when you say that we need to "change around the
> markup story"?
Well, i said thinking has to change...

> What do you mean by "cross representational boundaries"?

We should not think in terms of an XML database, an XML repository,
converting to HTML on the way out, adding JSON-LD or RDF or OpenGroup
markup on the way out.

We shoud think of information, which is conveniently represented in XML
documents, but those documents could also be HTML documents. What
matters is that they are in some sort of controlled vocabulary - a
schema, if you will - not the exact format, provided that the format
does not cause us problems.

When we think primarily in terms of formats, moving information between
formats becomes an issue, a problem, a barrier.

Thinking of XML as XML first is not the same as thinking of XML as one
(particularly convenient) way of representing information in a larger
ecosystem of triples, augmented triples, JSON, XML, HTML, PDF, and so
on.

Liam


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