Re: Was there a technical issue for the demise of XML 1.1?

From: Rick Jelliffe <rjelliffe@allette.com.au>
To: John Cowan <johnwcowan@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2018 10:28:25 +1100

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And yet that aspect has no benefit or relevance for most existing users or implementers; fairness to pre-industrial societies turns out not to be much of a value-add in post-industrial technologies, go figure.

There was also a push from vendors who wanted to be able to stick binary into XML (like 0x00 bytes) or who wanted much more efficient-to-implement parsing rules, wasn't there? And this fermented a desire for change, but then they got neither with XML 1.1 the way it worked out, so lost interest. (I think there needed to be a three-level kind of validation: first XML tokenized only in reference to ASCII characters (i.e. whitespace and delimiters) with built in ISO/W3C standard public entity sets, a second level of name checking (i.e. to encourage it to be done in a separate thread), and third entities and validation.)

Regards

Rick

Regards

Rick

On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 9:56 AM John Cowan <johnwcowan@gmail.com> wrote:

It was a collection of fixes to XML 1.0 none of which was in itself sufficiently compelling to justify a new and incompatible version. The feature I considered the most important, ditching Unicode 2.0 in favor of an evolving set of characters for element and attribute names (as well as the values of non-CDATA attributes), was incorporated into the 5th Edition of XML 1.0. My view is that XML 1.1 should be formally deprecated by W3C.

On Mon, Oct 8, 2018 at 4:01 PM Costello, Roger L. <costello@m...> wrote:
Hi Folks,

It is my understanding that the reason for the demise of XML 1.1 was simply that it was never adopted by the community - people were already using 1.0 and there was no compelling reason for moving to 1.1. Was there also a technical issue for its demise?

/Roger

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References:
- Was there a technical issue for the demise of XML 1.1?
  - From: "Costello, Roger L." <costello@mitre.org>
- Re: Was there a technical issue for the demise of XML 1.1?
  - From: John Cowan <johnwcowan@gmail.com>

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