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Re: Implement data rules in application code?

• From: dal <dalapeyre@mulberrytech.com>
• To: Peter Flynn <peter@silmaril.ie>
• Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2017 15:39:38 -0400

Ahh, Peter. Even better than my favorite example, one
of many possible encodings:

<surname initials="T">Toulouse-Lautrec-Monfa, de</surname>   
<given-names initials="H">Henri Marie Raymond</given-names>


—Debbie

> On Apr 12, 2017, at 3:10 PM, Peter Flynn <peter@silmaril.ie> wrote:
> 
> So JATS would adequately cope with Leone Sextus Denys Oswolf Fraudatifilius Tollemache-Tollemache de Orellana Plantagenet Tollemache-Tollemache?
> 
> An omission in most element or field structures I have seen is any indication of which name you are conventionally addressed by (or your preference).
> 
> I use my middle name (for irrelevant historical family reasons); Inspector Morse used his surname. The one thing we can be dogmatic about is that making assumptions into rules is always wrong 😃
> 
> Peter
> 
> 
> On 12 April 2017 16:48:27 dal <dalapeyre@mulberrytech.com> wrote:
> 
>> The JATS XML vocabulary for journal articles does a few things
>> correctly:
>> 
>> - A person does not need to have a <surname>, they can
>>   have only <given-names> as folks may do in Indonesia.
>> 
>> - A person can have multiple <surname>s (partronymic etc.)
>> 
>>  - The <given-names> element can also repeat, so you can
>>    put all your given names into one “Kenneth Pritchard Carnu”
>>    or split them up into 3 <given-names> elements.
>> 
>> Good for flexible tagging and not so good for consistency of
>> tagging.
>> 
>> —Debbie
>> 
>> P.S. My great-uncle was assigned the middle name “None” during
>> that same war.
>> 
>> —dal
>> 
>>> On Apr 12, 2017, at 9:10 AM, Thomas Passin <list1@tompassin.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> On 4/12/2017 3:43 AM, Rick Jelliffe wrote:
>>>> I have often felt concern for how difficult filling out forms must be
>>> 
>>>> I expect most of us know people with similar problems: an Indonesian
>>>> mate has only one name "What is your first name?" "Munali" What is your
>>>> last name?" "Munali" "So Munali Munali?" "No just Munali".  Transgender
>>>> people must be quite patient. Are validations against men having
>>>> husbands or women having wives being disabled as we sit here?
>>> 
>>> My father, who did not have a middle name, told me that (in World War II), when he was in the U.S Army, that his service records listed his middle name as "NMN" (No Middle Name).
>> 


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