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 Sorry, I truncated the last sentence > "...This would thus be a matter of extending the > HTML DOM to cater for what I called 'HXTML5' or something like > it in cases where having to make two different DOMs (HTML and > XML) work side-by-side in the same browsers... ... is considered too onerous . ---- Stephen D Green On 24 February 2011 09:29, Stephen Green <stephengreenubl@gmail.com> wrote: > Mmm. I had somehow gotten the idea that the browser vendors > were pushing back on parsing XML natively within the browser > (pushing back on the XML DOM and just sticking to the HTML > DOM). My idea is that, if the browser users so much need to have > extensibility but find this push-back by the browser vendors versus > the XML DOM is acting against their interests in that direction, then > maybe the users and vendors could meet halfway with extensibility > via something closer to the HTML DOM. So the idea I had was > that browser vendors could extend the HTML DOM with something > akin to what is there already, as (re)defined by WHATWG, but > which gives extensibility halfway to what XML gives. I would think > the browser vendors in WHATWG could define the parsing rules > which suit them and which make implementation no more painful > than with HTML5. This would thus be a matter of extending the > HTML DOM to cater for what I called 'HXTML5' or something like > it in cases where having to make two different DOMs (HTML and > XML) work side-by-side in the same browsers. > > ---- > Stephen D Green > > > > On 23 February 2011 19:43, Greg Hunt <greg@firmansyah.com> wrote: >> And it would be as easy to parse, for those of us who are not browser >> vendors, as html is. Why do that? >> XML has traction in the HTML world already and the changes that you suggest >> won't make it any more usable and will increase the number of technology >> variants that we have to deal with. This is the problem with all this talk >> of new kinds of XML, our technology usage is driven by the tools that are in >> the environment (which is I suspect why I is see RelaxNG in forums like this >> but I almost never see it anywhere else) and tends to complicate life when >> we have a family of related but overlapping standards - choosing one under >> those circumstances is more likely to cause a religious war. >> >> On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 6:19 AM, Stephen Green <stephengreenubl@gmail.com> >> wrote: >>> >>> What if there were a variant of XML which was like >>> HTML? It would be typically inserted into HTML >>> inside a script element >>> >>> e.g. >>> >>> <script type="text/hxtml5"> >>> <a b1=c1 b2='c2' b3="c3"> >>> <d e>f >>> </d> >>> <g><h></g> >>> </script> >>> >>> or >>> >>> <root> >>> <a b1=c1 b2='c2' b3="c3"> >>> <d e>f >>> </d> >>> <g><h></g> >>> </root> >>> >>> >>> Firstly it doesn't have to have a top level element >>> (but it can have) since it can be inserted inside >>> other HTML or XHTML elements. >>> >>> Elements do not have to have closing tags (rules >>> determine where missing tags would have been). >>> >>> Empty elements do not have to have a backslash >>> e.g. <h> above, in the spirit of HTML. They are >>> presumed to be empty as determined by parsing >>> rules, as with HTML. >>> >>> Attributes do not have to have values (e.g. 'e' above). >>> >>> Attribute values do not have be surrounded by quotes. >>> >>> I guess this is distinct from XML5 though which I >>> think has the concept of compatibility with XML 1.0. >>> >>> Might it get more traction in the HTML world? >>> ---- >>> Stephen D Green >>> >>> _______________________________________________________________________ >>> >>> XML-DEV is a publicly archived, unmoderated list hosted by OASIS >>> to support XML implementation and development. To minimize >>> spam in the archives, you must subscribe before posting. >>> >>> [Un]Subscribe/change address: http://www.oasis-open.org/mlmanage/ >>> Or unsubscribe: xml-dev-unsubscribe@lists.xml.org >>> subscribe: xml-dev-subscribe@lists.xml.org >>> List archive: http://lists.xml.org/archives/xml-dev/ >>> List Guidelines: http://www.oasis-open.org/maillists/guidelines.php >>> >> >> > 
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