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RE: menuml -restaurant menu xml prototype app

  • From: "Jim Tivy" <jimt@bluestream.com>
  • To: "'Simon St.Laurent'" <simonstl@simonstl.com>,"'Michael Kay'" <mike@s...>
  • Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 14:55:14 -0700

RE:  menuml -restaurant menu xml prototype app
I agree with both Simon and Michael.

Sometimes you have a simple spec that could be subsumed by a more expansive
spec but is not.  For, example GPX for GPS interchanges vs GML as the more
expansive spec.

http://www.topografix.com/gpx.asp
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geography_Markup_Language

Having two specs should be avoided if possible, at another level it allows
the GPS community to run with something simple - and simple sells and
spreads like wildfire.  It also can burn you for later enhancements.

You have to decide how wide ranging and inclusive you want to be.  Is it
truly a "standard".  Proper design should go from requirements to some
proposals - which can be tortured complex crap - to a final simplification.
Sometimes the final simplication stage never happens.  Simplication can be
accomplished with conformance levels or extensible frameworks or
"architectures" being a way to avoid complexity and having to specify every
last item for everyone - eg: HL7, GML, DITA.

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: Simon St.Laurent [mailto:simonstl@simonstl.com] 
Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2009 6:14 PM
To: Michael Kay
Cc: 'Sharma, Dhruv'; xml-dev@lists.xml.org
Subject: Re:  menuml -restaurant menu xml prototype app

Michael Kay wrote:
> I'm afraid this looks more like a quick student exercise than a 
> professional schema design informed by methodical data analysis.

Part of what I've always liked about XML is that you don't have to be a 
professional schema designer to walk up to it and get things done.

And given a lot of the professional designs I've seen, that may be the 
key to why it actually took off.

-- 
Simon St.Laurent
http://simonstl.com/

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