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RE: Pragmatic namespaces

• From: "Michael Kay" <mike@saxonica.com>
• To: <rjelliffe@allette.com.au>,"'XML Developers List'" <xml-dev@l...>
• Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 11:34:20 +0100

> > No, the HTML WG has to come up with a mechanism that the 
> rest of the 
> > community is happy with (or at least, is prepared to live with). If 
> > they fail to do so, they will fail.
> 
> Eh?? The XML community cannot pretend to be or speak for the 
> HTML community. There is no push to change namespaces except 
> for HTML by the HTML WG.

My reading of this conversation was that there is some deep-rooted unease
about namespaces within the XML community, and a feeling that the HTML WGs
problems are not unique to HTML and might be the stimulus for improvements
at the XML level that would benefit everyone.
> 
> I think the key issue is non-distruptiveness. The XML side 
> won't accept something that is too disruptive on balance

Agreed. My suggestion of a "vocabulary definition" used to resolve
undeclared prefixes and unprefixed element names was designed with that in
mind. It would accept the current XML syntax and deliver the current
infoset.
> 
> (My own opinion is that this is all a side-effect of the 
> W3C's intense desire to avoid anything like a long-term plan 
> or a co-ordinated strategy.

W3C does not have intense desires. It's a collection of a lot of people with
different intense desires, working within processes that give each of them a
voice.

Regards,

Michael Kay
http://www.saxonica.com/
http://twitter.com/michaelhkay 

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