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• From: "Jim Tivy" <jimt@bluestream.com>
• To: <Tim.Bray@Sun.COM>,"'Dave Pawson'" <davep@d...>
• Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 14:11:46 -0700

That is a good section but my vote would be open with the first meaning as
you have been suggesting.  XML is an exact thing as defined by the w3c
extensible markup language recommendation(s).

People say the text <a/> *is* XML but more precisely it *is* a "document"
that comples with the "a" markup language which in turn complies with the
rules of XML.  From this I determine that XML is not a language but rather
rules and mechanisms for creating languages - a markup language Framework
(MLF) or some such thing.  But I would not want to be a revisionist because
it can cause confusion on what is otherwise a great tool.


-----Original Message-----
From: Tim.Bray@Sun.COM [mailto:Tim.Bray@Sun.COM] 
Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2009 12:55 PM
To: Dave Pawson
Cc: Pete Cordell; 'XML Developers List'
Subject: Re:  Wikipedia on XML

Alternatively, we could promote the section under "meanings" of the  
term" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XML#Meanings_of_the_term) to the  
top of the entry & enrich it with some links.  Currently it says:

The term "XML" is used colloquially in the IT and marketing  
communities to describe a variety of technologies, including:

    1. the syntax and rules defined by the W3C XML specification(s);
    2. any vocabulary (markup language) based on the XML  
specification; and
    3. XML technology in general, such as the collection of XML  
languages, parsers, tools and APIs applied to a particular problem  
set, as in "we are using XML for information exchange".

The majority of this article concerns the first meaning. Wikipedia  
contains numerous articles covering many of the specific XML languages  
and technologies. See the XML Category.

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