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RE: Do namespaces address all use cases well

  • From: "Jim Tivy" <jimt@bluestream.com>
  • To: "'COUTHURES Alain'" <alain.couthures@agencexml.com>,"'Michael Kay'" <mike@s...>,"'Kurt Cagle'" <kurt.cagle@g...>,"'XML Developers List'" <xml-dev@l...>
  • Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 14:20:58 -0700

RE:  Do namespaces address all use cases well

Absolutely, see my second sentence:

 

"For a number of use cases I have seen namespaces work.  They are integrated in most Xml processors.  So they are there already for free."

 

As well, we can only focus on so many things and learn so many things and the lead time on tools supporting new technolgies is 5 years or more for any kind of saturation.

 

But at some level, I applaud the question - can we do better?

 


From: COUTHURES Alain [mailto:alain.couthures@agencexml.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 2:17 PM
To: Jim Tivy; 'Michael Kay'; 'Kurt Cagle'; 'XML Developers List'
Subject: Re: Do namespaces address all use cases well

 

Even though it's always good to think about how to improve namespaces, how long would we have to wait for such a new mechanism to be widely available ? Don't we need solutions for today ?

-Alain

Jim Tivy a écrit :

Interesting idea. This is likely something that has to be addressed in an Xml track.  I am not sure that HTML-5 is even an Xml track?

 

For a number of use cases I have seen namespaces work.  They are integrated in most Xml processors.  So they are there already for free.

 

But how well they address all use cases I do not know.  I would be interested to hear about use cases where Xml namespaces fail and rough sketches of better technologies.

 

Jim

 


From: Michael Kay [mailto:mike@saxonica.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 1:55 PM
To: 'Kurt Cagle'; 'Jim Tivy'
Cc: 'XML Developers List'
Subject: RE: XHTML 2 Working Group won't be renewed?

 

 > There's supposed to be an extensibility workshop in September at one of the F2Fs where namespaces in general will be hashed out - I plan to be monitoring that one carefully, as I suspect that there will be a move to "fix" namespaces in a way that will have long term negative repercussions for the XML community. 

 

Let's approach this positively. XML namespaces are a pretty awful piece of design. Perhaps this is an opportunity to revisit the requirement and do something a bit more elegant.

 

Regards,

Michael Kay
http://www.saxonica.com/
http://twitter.com/michaelhkay

 
 

 

 



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