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On Sep 12, 2008, at 6:47 PM, Mark Shellenberger wrote: > So you are suggesting that "to tag" has now become a causality of > Web 2.0? > Wonderful. I really don't understand the jump you are taking > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Robert Koberg [mailto:rob@k...] > Sent: Friday, September 12, 2008 5:35 PM > To: Mark Shellenberger > Cc: xml-dev@l... > Subject: Re: Is "markup" a noun or a verb? Do you "markup > data" or > "wrap data in tags"? > > This sounds right to me: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tag_(metadata) > > > On Sep 12, 2008, at 5:02 PM, Mark Shellenberger wrote: > >> I agree that 'tagging' stuff seems a bit vulgar but it also gets >> across the >> message to those that need said message. I make a point of showing >> the >> difference between element and tag in conversation regarding XML >> because >> those two terms have specific different meanings. >> >> But how are 'to markup' or 'to tag' (in the sense of XML/HTML) >> different? >> Or is it just a sensibility thing? >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Deborah Aleyne Lapeyre [mailto:dalapeyre@m...] >> Sent: Friday, September 12, 2008 3:38 PM >> To: xml-dev@l... >> Subject: Re: Is "markup" a noun or a verb? Do you "markup >> data" or >> "wrap data in tags"? >> >> "Preferred" is such a slippery word. In my teaching experience >> (no preference implied): >> >>> 1. I marked up the data. - is the way the professionals in >> this industry would say it. It sounds fine to most of us, but also >> confuses many novices, even copyeditors. >> >>> 2, 3, and 4 are OK, but nobody talks like this in real life IMO >> >>> 5, 6, 7 have never been heard by me in the real world. I also >> don't like them much (maybe I do have a preference after all) >> >> The great unwashed (i.e. professionals in some other business >> than this Markup stuff) would, I think, mostly agree with Mark, >> they "tag" their data. >> >> Overlap geeks have been heard to call it >> "applying inline markup" >> >> ---------- >> Yes, Steve, I agree that "to mark up" is a verb, but >> even "markup" the noun has problems. >> >> When Balisage wanted a subtitle to tell people what the >> conference was actually about, we chose >> "Balisage:The Markup Conference". >> Sounded good to us, because we wanted to express that it was more >> than "Balisage: The XML Conference" since it was perfectly >> fine to talk about microformats, SGML, non-XML-based mashups >> and clouds, out-of-line-markup, LMNL, etc. But it left a lot of >> people wondering what the conference WAS about, and we have had >> some very odd email reactions and a bunch of business types >> who do not view the UBL and other tag-related things that >> they do as "markup". Markup is for text, not data is some eyes. >> Odd old world. >> >> --dal >> >> -- >> = >> ===================================================================== >> Deborah Aleyne Lapeyre >> mailto:dalapeyre@m... >> Mulberry Technologies, Inc. http:// >> www.mulberrytech.com >> 17 West Jefferson Street Direct Phone: >> 301/315-9633 >> Suite 207 Phone: >> 301/315-9631 >> Rockville, MD 20850 Fax: >> 301/315-8285 >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> Mulberry Technologies: A Consultancy Specializing in XML, XSL, & SGML >> = >> ===================================================================== >> >> _______________________________________________________________________ >> >> XML-DEV is a publicly archived, unmoderated list hosted by OASIS >> to support XML implementation and development. 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