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  • From: "Anishek Agarwal" <anishek@g...>
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  • Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 14:59:52 +0530

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Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 14:50:21 +0530
From: "Anishek Agarwal" <anishek@g...>
To: "Andrew Welch" <andrew.j.welch@g...>
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Subject: Re: XML Transformation

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According to the xml specification though
http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-xml-names/#scoping-defaulting the inner scope
definition overrides the parent one if the NSAttName is the same. In our
case of the xml above it is the same as its the default namespace. So i dont
see why the inner scope namespace declaration element be removed and use the
parent namespace.


Anishek

On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 2:30 PM, Andrew Welch <andrew.j.welch@g...>wrote:

> > For better or worse, the digital signature mechanisms follow XML
> > Canonicalization by deciding that namespace prefixes are significant: see
> >
> > http://www.w3.org/TR/xml-c14n#NoNSPrefixRewriting
> >
> > for discussion.
>
> !  That's good to know...
>
> I guess it all comes down the fact that the prefix isn't expanded to
> the URI.... which is the root cause of the problem of XPath requiring
> the prefixes to be mapped elsewhere.
>
> I guess there is an argument for dropping the URI altogether, and just
> using the prefix.  Some things would get harder, but many more would
> get a lot easier.
>
>
> --
> Andrew Welch
> http://andrewjwelch.com/
> Kernow: http://kernowforsaxon.sf.net/
>

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<div dir="ltr">According to the xml specification though
<a href=""http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-xml-names/#scoping-defaulting">http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-xml-names/#scoping-defaulting</a> the inner scope
definition overrides the parent one if the <a id="scoping" name="scoping">NSAttName is the same. In our case of the xml above it is the same as its the default namespace. So i dont see why the inner scope namespace declaration element be removed</a><a id="scoping" name="scoping"></a> and use the parent namespace. <br>

<br>
<br>Anishek<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 2:30 PM, Andrew Welch <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href=""mailto:andrew.j.welch@g...">andrew.j.welch@g...</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div class="Ih2E3d">&gt; For better or worse, the digital signature mechanisms follow XML<br>
&gt; Canonicalization by deciding that namespace prefixes are significant: see<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; <a href=""http://www.w3.org/TR/xml-c14n#NoNSPrefixRewriting" target="_blank">http://www.w3.org/TR/xml-c14n#NoNSPrefixRewriting</a><br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; for discussion.<br>
<br>
</div>! &nbsp;That&#39;s good to know...<br>
<br>
I guess it all comes down the fact that the prefix isn&#39;t expanded to<br>
the URI.... which is the root cause of the problem of XPath requiring<br>
the prefixes to be mapped elsewhere.<br>
<br>
I guess there is an argument for dropping the URI altogether, and just<br>
using the prefix. &nbsp;Some things would get harder, but many more would<br>
get a lot easier.<br>
<font color="#888888"><br>
<br>
--<br>
Andrew Welch<br>
<a href=""http://andrewjwelch.com/" target="_blank">http://andrewjwelch.com/</a><br>
Kernow: <a href=""http://kernowforsaxon.sf.net/" target="_blank">http://kernowforsaxon.sf.net/</a><br>
</font></blockquote></div><br></div>

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