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Re: Victory has been declared in the schema wars ...

• From: ht@i... (Henry S. Thompson)
• To: Henri Sivonen <hsivonen@i...>
• Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2006 17:07:22 +0000

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Henri Sivonen writes:

> On Nov 29, 2006, at 14:31, Elliotte Harold wrote:
>
>> Henri Sivonen wrote:
>>
>>> I think not having a normative schema for HTML5 is a very good
>>> idea. None of the current schema languages (not even Schematron)
>>> are adequate for expressing all the conformance requirements of
>>> HTML5.
>>
>> More to the point, HTML5 is not XML. It is not well-formed, and in
>> general an HTML5 document cannot be made well-formed without
>> crippling it by removing quite a few elements. Therefore XML schema
>> languages really don't fit it at all.
>
> They fit quite nicely if the HTML parser reports an equivalent XHTML
> document to the schema layer, which is what my parser does. Jing
> doesn't care what calls the ContentHandler methods.

So isn't the right thing to say about HTML5 that there _is_ a
normative schema, but it's not for the surface syntax, it's for that
underlying XHTML document.  Seems to me there _must_ be such a
grammar, or Hixie couldn't be figuring out what fixups to do: the
fixups are designed to produce a tree of a certain form, and it would
be useful for all of us to document that form using a schema. . .

ht
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