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RE: Victory has been declared in the schema wars ...

• From: "Michael Champion" <mc@x...>
• To: "'Rick Jelliffe'" <rjelliffe@a...>,<xml-dev@l...>
• Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 19:17:19 -0800

No commitment.  We're investigating.  The timetable would be sometime
*after* it's a Recommendation.  The general feeling here is that we (well,
our predecessors in the late '90s) blew it by committing to supporting
whatever came out of the W3C and deprecating XDR before seeing what the
schema WG actually produced.  Too many breaking changes, or a reversion to
the hard dependency on XML 1.1 would tend to deflate our interest. 

BTW, I'm speaking only for the core Data Programmability / XML team.  There
are others who are already implementing XSD 1.1 for their own product (the
same folks who have also implemented Schematron). 

Speaking of XSD 1.1 and Schematron, what do others think about their
approach of defining their own constraint language based on Schematron
concepts rather than taking an external dependency on Schematron?  

-----Original Message-----
From: Rick Jelliffe [mailto:rjelliffe@a...] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 5:27 PM
To: xml-dev@l...
Subject: Re:  Victory has been declared in the schema wars ...

Michael Champion wrote:
>
> Finally, I really don't think that XSD is dramatically "worse" than 
> the rest of the XML corpus. The people who really specialize in and 
> understand the spec can work with it, and the WG is addressing the 
> worst flaws in 1.1 DTDs are what cause us the most day to day pain. 
> Namespaces are probably second. If you are going to repair the 
> foundation, why not just pull down the whole house and rebuild it 
> "properly"? There are good reasons not to do this, of course, but I'm 
> not sure we'd be able to resist the temptation.
>
Has MicroSoft made a commitment to upgrade to XSD 1.1? What is the 
timetable?

Cheers
Rick Jelliffe

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