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And in IDEAS/IADS (Unisys/USAMICOM) that supported dtd-less stylesheet based coding. IDEAS was the commercial version of IADS with DTD batch support as-needed. IADS was offered free to the world and provided an example for Yuri and Dr. Goldfarb that the techniques for markup that would become XML did work in hypermedia. It was presented at the CALS and SGML conferences. IADS came the closest to XML because it's developers made a very noticeable break with SGML conformance by embracing syntax-conformance without DTDs. It was beat up for that at the time, but with XML's success, it became evident the Unisys programmers had gotten it all right some six years before XML. XML is outcome of many separate efforts to make SGML suitable for hypertext. There are Rashomonic viewpoints about the history depending on which projects one worked at the time, but collectively, almost all of XML features had been tried prior to the working groups beginning at the W3C. Yuri had the benefit of seeing these so there was no doubt about the technical outcome, just the rate of adoption. Some were surprised the uptake was so fast; others weren't. The piles of money being lobbed at web companies at that point provided a mighty suction and the shortcomings of HTML-centric browsers were becoming evident to those who had not already been exposed to more advanced systems. len From: Gavin Thomas Nicol [mailto:gtn@r...] On Jun 5, 2006, at 4:38 PM, Bullard, Claude L ((Len)) wrote: > 1. 90% of the work was done before the work started because of the > long history of SGML. > > 2. There was no lack of expertise with years of experience. I think these were two key points. The requirement for SGML compatibility, plus the expertise from the field that guided SGML feature selection, resulted in broad consensus. There were already a number of XML-like subsets out in the wild, and in particular, in 2 commercial browser-like applications (SoftQuad and EBT). BTW. I should note that the ERB/WG split happened after the group got big enough to justify the split. There was a lot of formative work done before the ERB split off.
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