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RE: Re: [Schematron-love-in] ISO Schematron Update (RETRY)

• To: "Fraser Goffin" <goffinf@g...>
• Subject: RE: Re: [Schematron-love-in] ISO Schematron Update (RETRY)
• From: "Paul Spencer" <xml-dev-list@b...>
• Date: Tue, 23 May 2006 08:56:34 +0100
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Fraser,

Thanks, but I have already done this in the same way myself. My point was
just that, if there was a new implementation coming, XML would be a better
output for the default as this is easy to convert to HTML or a specific XML
format. For example, I have a test suite for the OASIS Election Markup
Language. This produces the standard EML error message from a stylesheet
that imports skeleton. I did this before 1-6 came out. I guess I will switch
at my next revision, but 1-5 is working for me.

Regards

Paul

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Fraser Goffin [mailto:goffinf@g...]
> Sent: 22 May 2006 15:57
> To: Paul Spencer
> Cc: schematron-love-in@e...; XML-Dev Mailing list
> Subject: Re:  Re: [Schematron-love-in] ISO Schematron Update
> (RETRY)
>
>
> Paul,
>
> there is an xslt (attached) that produces xml output (it imports
> skeleton). If you need a customised output then you are actively
> encouraged to create your own implementation, at least, thats what we
> did (its fairly easy).
>
> Also we use the 1-6 implementation since this fixes a few bugs and
> adds some features (let, id/keys, ...)
>
> Regards
>
> Fraser.
>
> On 22/05/06, Paul Spencer <xml-dev-list@b...> wrote:
> > Ken,
> >
> > > >A while back there was some talk of a possible XSLT implementation
> > > >being available at some point too ?
> > >
> > > Works are in progress ... no announcements yet ... sorry for any
> > > delay ... the development of implementations is independent of the
> > > standardization process.
> >
> > I have used the old skeleton1-5.xslt. This is extremely useful,
> but had a
> > couple of problems from my point of view. I don't know whether
> it is useful
> > for you to know of these if you are doing a new version.
> >
> > The first is that I found I had to be very careful on the context of the
> > rules to make sure that the right one was run. For example, I
> might write a
> > rule for all elements A, then another for element A when it contained an
> > element B. I'm sure you can see the problem - the prioritisation of XSLT
> > templates would stop the first rule running if the A in
> question contained a
> > B. The intention was for both to run. The workaround is easy,
> but it is easy
> > to miss the problem, especially as I write my rules as a
> spreadsheet with a
> > context for each rule (easier to review with business people)
> then create
> > the Schematron automatically from that.
> >
> > The second problem is just the fact that skeleton1-5.xslt
> produces an HTML
> > output. Producing an XML output is much more flexible. Not a
> problem for me
> > to change, but it would be useful if this were the standard as HTML can
> > always be produced from this.
> >
> > Paul Spencer
> >
> >
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