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RE: RE: What Does Web 2.0 Mean Redux (WAS RE: XTECH

• To: "Bullard, Claude L \(Len\)" <len.bullard@i...>
• Subject: RE: RE: What Does Web 2.0 Mean Redux (WAS RE: XTECH 2006 Call for Papers announced)
• From: "Nathan Young -X \(natyoung - Artizen at Cisco\)" <natyoung@c...>
• Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 12:22:17 -0800
• Cc: <xml-dev@l...>
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• Thread-topic: RE: What Does Web 2.0 Mean Redux (WAS RE: XTECH 2006 Call for Papers announced)

Len:

"Patience while the wheel grinds but keep turning 
the handle. "

If you made that up I want to quote you... if you are quoting I want to
know the source!!!

thanks
-------------->Nathan


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bullard, Claude L (Len) [mailto:len.bullard@i...] 
> Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005 11:24 AM
> To: 'Andrzej Taramina'; 'davep@d...'; Kurt Cagle
> Cc: xml-dev@l...
> Subject:  RE: What Does Web 2.0 Mean Redux (WAS RE: 
>  XTECH 2006 Call for Papers announced)
> 
> From: Andrzej Taramina [mailto:andrzej@c...]
> 
> >One of my favourite quotes is that from a Stella (the beer) 
> poster which
> states:
> >"I would rather die of thirst than to drink from the cup of 
> mediocrity".
> >Unfortunately, that attitude doesn't seem to be the common 
> one, so we're
> probably doomed
> >to a certain level of mediocrity in all human endeavours.
> 
> Of course.  We should simply be aware of the hyperbole and 
> not bet more 
> than a draft on it until we are happy with the blend.  I blogged what 
> my opinions on the document formats discussion produced.  It 
> was a civil, 
> thoughtful intense discussion among peers.  No big 
> revelations, but no 
> big problems other than an unbalanced market in need of 
> correction and 
> by degrees, getting it.  Patience while the wheel grinds but 
> keep turning 
> the handle.
> 
> >I would propose that the term "Web 2.0", as a label, is 
> mediocre in and of
> itself. ;-)
> 
> Yeah... it gets investors excited, people FUD the products of their
> competitors, the 
> software gets downloaded, the complaints and the huzzahs are 
> heard, and we
> all go 
> home to drink something, eat something, and chat with the 
> dormouse.  People
> who read 
> stuff like Graham writes or me or you or the rest of us here 
> should remember
> the 
> software/web business is all about itself, not democracy, freedom, the
> chat-ups 
> or the put-downs.  It's a business that is more than a little 
> self-absorbed.
> 
> One of the really good quotes I heard at XML 2005 was, "These 
> guys are my
> friends. 
> They were my friends before Microsoft and Google, and they'll 
> be my friends
> after 
> Microsoft and Google."
> 
> That's a good attitude.
> 
> len
> 
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