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Re: Document oriented experience reports anyone?

• To: Michael Champion <michaelc.champion@g...>
• Subject: Re: Document oriented experience reports anyone?
• From: Bob Foster <bob@o...>
• Date: Wed, 08 Jun 2005 11:19:04 -0700
• Cc: "Nadia.Swaby@p..." <Nadia.Swaby@p...>,Rick Jelliffe <ricko@a...>,XML Developers List <xml-dev@l...>
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XMLBuddy, Oxygen and no doubt other editors support using DTDs for 
entities but not for validation, as the XML spec allows a non-validating 
parser to do. XMLBuddy uses an off-the-shelf parser (XercesJ). The only 
issue is finding the right feature incantation that makes it work.

I believe the industry as a whole is gradually reacting to this common 
use case. In another forum, Michael Glavassevich wrote: "The JAXP 1.3 
Validation API [1][2] decouples the process of validation from parsing. 
You will be able to perform schema validation without also having to 
turn on the [DTD] validation feature."

It's certainly the path of least resistance to Just Do It as opposed to 
inventing a replacement for DTD entities. If your favorite parser 
doesn't support this use case, send them a bug report.

Bob Foster
http://xmlbuddy.com/

Michael Champion wrote:
 > On 6/8/05, Nadia.Swaby@p... <Nadia.Swaby@p...> wrote:
 >
 >
 >>In summation, schema can be very useful in publishing, but the lack of
 >>entity support is a huge drawback.
 >
 >
 > Strictly speaking, one can use DTDs (to declare entities) in
 > conjunction with XSD to define everything else.  After all, DTD
 > operates on XML syntax and XSD is defined on the Infoset.  I suspect
 > that there are gotchas that make this difficult ... does anyone know
 > what they might be?
 >
 >
 >>I guess I should copy and paste this in word and send it to the W3C!
 >
 >
 > Yes!

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