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Re: You call that a standard?

• To: "Bullard, Claude L (Len)" <clbullar@i...>
• Subject: Re: You call that a standard?
• From: Rich Salz <rsalz@d...>
• Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 10:41:17 -0400
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> price to be paid by many in our community who chose 
> to gut ISO and really did not understand what they 
> were doing.  Their tears now do not move me.

> http://news.com.com/2008-1013-5200672.html?tag=nefd.acpro

"He also contends that the standards development in governmental 
organizations, such as the United Nations, is a very politicized process."

Oh yeah, the folks who designed network protocols so that the national 
postal systems, which morphed into the national telegraph systems, which 
morphed into the national phone systems, which morphed into the national 
data carriers, could make money charging per bit.

You know, don't you, that the acronym ISO had to be deliberately chosen 
to not stand for anything in English so that AFNOR (the French national 
standards body) wouldn't walk away?  Claiming ISO is any more or less 
political than W3C, IETF, ANSI, IEEE, OASIS, et al, is ridiculous.

Once he's done whining about how web services derailed ebXML, not much 
else in that article makes sense.  WS-I is not a competitor to OASIS. 
WS-I does not add any IP claims to other's standards.  Yes, there are 
things in the IBM/MSFT web services stack that are proprietary -- I've 
written about that many times -- but they're not part of WS-I.

And, BTW, did he *read* the WS-I IP document?  It binds everyone who 
joins to don't sue cross-license agreement.  You cannot get a strong RF 
policy!

Does he *like* OASIS (yes, since it was joint with UN and CEFACT), or 
dislike it (because it's not a standards organization).

	/r$

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Rich Salz, Chief Security Architect
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