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RE: Expertise and Innovation - was Re: Non-Borg serv

• To: "Bullard, Claude L \(Len\)" <clbullar@i...>,<xml-dev@l...>
• Subject: RE: Expertise and Innovation - was Re: Non-Borg servers can authenticate Borg clients (Was Re: Re: Cookies at XML Europe 2004 -- Call for Participation)
• From: "Joshua Allen" <joshuaa@m...>
• Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2004 11:30:17 -0800
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• Thread-topic: Expertise and Innovation - was Re: Non-Borg servers can authenticate Borg clients (Was Re: Re: Cookies at XML Europe 2004 -- Call for Participation)

Yeah, that's right.  I think these architectural principles behind URIs
were just as important as having a killer app.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bullard, Claude L (Len) [mailto:clbullar@i...]
> Sent: Monday, January 12, 2004 11:25 AM
> To: Joshua Allen; xml-dev@l...
> Subject: RE:  Expertise and Innovation - was Re: 
Non-
> Borg servers can authenticate Borg clients (Was Re:  Re:
Cookies
> at XML Europe 2004 -- Call for Participation)
> 
> It was the devaluing of link maintenance ("let 'em snap").
> Before that, people broke their intellectual necks trying
> to come up with non-system identifiers.  Tim essentially
> got rid of non-system identifiers.  In the 'web architecture',
> it is all one system called the 'universe'.
> 
> len
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joshua Allen [mailto:joshuaa@m...]
> 
> > 	Those who said that Tim's work was "trivial", or "not-new" or
> > "didn't solve interesting problems" were right. But those who said
it
> 
> Did "memex" have the concept of universal identifiers?  I know that
some
> of the other hypermedia systems at the time permitted linking to a
> common global id, but it was cumbersome and not the "normal" way of
> doing links.  The WWW is still lagging functionality of many of those
> hypermedia systems, but the fact that using "universal" identifiers
was
> the "standard" way of identifying targets was at least as important as
> having a killer app IMO.  I think that the URI, not the hyperlink, is
> the fundamental innovation of the WWW -- and in fact the true
potential
> of the web lies with use of URIs beyond hypermedia.
> 
> (And by "universal", I mean you have a string identifier that is going
> to give the exact same result no matter whether called by a user on a
> workstation in Singapore or a user at CERN.)

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