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The lack of interop in the WebDAV client in Windows ("Web Folders") is *completely* different issue from using IE with digest auth. WebFolders definitely have interop "issues" with non-MS servers (and even MS servers that don't return the right headers, custom-coded .NET servers, and so on) that go far beyond digest auth. It was never a priority to have the client work with other servers, and considered by some to be a support liability. I'm not an expert on WebDAV interop, but Julian Reschke who frequents this group is, and I have seen more than enough to convince me that WebFolders interop with anything other than SharePoint is close to hopeless. I would just use a different WebDAV client. Basic digest auth for IE should be pretty safe, however. > -----Original Message----- > From: Amelia A. Lewis [mailto:amyzing@t...] > Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 10:13 AM > To: Elliotte Rusty Harold > Cc: xml-dev@l... > Subject: Re: Non-Borg servers can authenticate Borg clients (Was > Re: Re: Cookies at XML Europe 2004 -- Call for Participation) > > That's interesting. I've got WebDAV servers (running on apache), using > digest. Win2000 and WinXP both fail to attach web folders. So web > folders uses a different dll or something? In fact, when I was > researching this, I discovered that random variations in installed > service packs + hot fixes + IE + IE SPs/fixes + Office + Office fixes > apparently sometimes (but not in a fashion that anyone has yet been able > to reliably reproduce) permit web folders to work with apache with > digest auth. My experience (seven systems, two running 2000, five xp) > has been uniformly negative. > > Amy! > On Fri, 9 Jan 2004 11:28:11 -0500 > Elliotte Rusty Harold <elharo@m...> wrote: > > > At 8:52 PM -0500 1/8/04, Rich Salz wrote: > > > > > > >Did you miss the posting where I said IE5 just gives up? Given the > > >market penetration of IE5 on the web, I think that's sufficient proof > > >that interoperable digest isn't available now. Of all the web sites > > >you use, do you know of one that does it? > > > > Since I don't happen to know of a real world web site that uses > > digest authentication, (very few use even basic) I set up digest > > authentication on one of my servers and ran my own tests. You (and > > anyone else) can check this out for yourself at > > http://www.elharo.com/staging/ > > Username: invited > > Password: test > > > > This is a Red Hat 8.0 Linux box running Apache 2.0.40 with whatever > > patches Red Hat's released over the last year or so. I haven't done > > anything special to the server in that respect. > > > > Here are my results: > > > > Internet Explorer 6.0 Windows 2000: Works > > Internet Explorer 5.1 Mac OS 9: Works > > Internet Explorer 5.2 Mac OS X: Works > > Mozilla 1.4 Linux: Works > > Mozilla 1.3 Mac OS 9: Works > > Safari 1.0 Mac OS X: Works > > Netscape Navigator 6.2 Mac OS 9: Fails > > Opera 7.11 Windows: Works > > > > I assume Netscape 4.x fails as well. Netscape 7 probably works. These > > are just the browsers I have handy. I'm sorry I do not have a > > Windows machine with IE 5.5 or earlier or Opera 6.0 or earlier to > > test on. Please do hit my page with your copy of IE5 and let me know > > what happens. Also anybody else, who has a browser not on this list, > > please also check out the page and report your results. > > > > So far, though I cannot verify the claim that Borg clients can only > > operate with Borg servers. Indeed I dispute that claim for Borg IE > > 6.0, and for Mac Borg. :-) Possibly, the reverse is true: that is, > > it's possible that IIS only works with IE, but Apache 2.0 does seem > > to work with IE. > > > > -- > > > > Elliotte Rusty Harold > > elharo@m... > > Effective XML (Addison-Wesley, 2003) > > http://www.cafeconleche.org/books/effectivexml > > > http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ISBN%3D0321150406/ref%3Dnosim/cafeaula it > A > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > The xml-dev list is sponsored by XML.org <http://www.xml.org>, an > > initiative of OASIS <http://www.oasis-open.org> > > > > The list archives are at http://lists.xml.org/archives/xml-dev/ > > > > To subscribe or unsubscribe from this list use the subscription > > manager: <http://lists.xml.org/ob/adm.pl> > > > > > -- > Amelia A. Lewis amyzing {at} talsever.com > Love is never less for being shared. > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > The xml-dev list is sponsored by XML.org <http://www.xml.org>, an > initiative of OASIS <http://www.oasis-open.org> > > The list archives are at http://lists.xml.org/archives/xml-dev/ > > To subscribe or unsubscribe from this list use the subscription > manager: <http://lists.xml.org/ob/adm.pl>
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