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On Friday 24 October 2003 13:33, Rich Salz wrote: > > We're not connecting on something here, because for me, that XML > > snippet does describe a data model. It says an Address is composed > > of a Street, Country and Postal Code. What else is there for a > > data model to say about an Address? > > Write the C struct that corresponds to that snippet; you can't. My C might be a little rusty, I switched to Java about 7 years ago. struct Address { Street street; Country country; PostalCode postal_code; } What information is required to write the C struct that is not provided by the XML snippet? The only possibility I can see is the member names. In C, elements of a data structure are accessed by name, whereas in XML, you have to search through the list of children for an element matching the expected type (ie: namespace qualified element name). For me, the difference in access conventions is about the execution model, not the data model. Is this what you're talking about, or is it something different? > That > snippet can fully define a piece of XML, but it doesn't fully define a > data model. I could also draw a UML class diagram, or ER diagram, for the XML snippet. These are "data model" modelling tools. > Perhaps that's our disconnect: I assume that your > requirements for a data model including mapping it into a conventional > programming language. If you're satisfied with not being able to map > that snippet into a language, then we're closer than we appear. I think the mapping question is orthogonal. Once you have a description of how the XML document is structured, you can write code to map from the abstract syntax tree defined by the XML Infoset to the abstract syntax tree defined by your local programming environment. Is your point that the description of the data model not be biased towards mapping to any particular execution environment? If so, I agree. The data model should only describe the structure of the exchanged data. We should be working at the level of an ER diagram. My point is only that there is a data model. There has to be for people to know where to get particular information from the XML file. I have to know where to look for the Street. XML programmers use and exchange data models. Without the data model, all you've got is a tree of strings, and no way of knowing which string to use for what. The thing you use to pick a string is the data model. Tyler
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