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RE: XML Binary and Compression

• To: <winkowski@m...>, "'Elliotte Rusty Harold'" <elharo@m...>, <msc@m...>, <xml-dev@l...>
• Subject: RE: XML Binary and Compression
• From: "Alessandro Triglia" <sandro@m...>
• Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 11:50:11 -0500
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• In-reply-to: <p04330105ba9261132230@[192.168.254.4]>

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Elliotte Rusty Harold [mailto:elharo@m...] 
> Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 10:40
> To: msc@m...; xml-dev@l...
> Cc: winkowski@m...; msc@m...
> Subject: RE:  XML Binary and Compression
> 
> 
> At 9:27 AM -0500 3/10/03, msc@m... wrote:
> >Rusty,
> >
> >The corresponding paper can be found here:
> >
> >http://www.idealliance.org/papers/xml02/dx_xml02/papers/06-02
> -04/06-02-
> >04.pd
> 
> Thanks. The key point I gather from reading the paper is:
> 
>      Because of the sensitive nature of the study data, the
>      element names used in the sample XML data cannot be
>      discussed in this paper. It can be noted, however, that
>      the tag names used were unabbreviated, descriptive
>      terms.
> 
>      As mentioned above, the precise structure and content of
>      the samples cannot be presented here. However, the
>      general structure and data types of the XML documents
>      used for the study can be discussed. These are
>      illustrated in Figure 1, below. Although the study data
>      is not available to the reader, this depiction should
>      indicate that the XML sample structure and content is
>      sufficiently rich for the study purposes.
> 
> In other words the raw data is not available, so it's impossible for 
> anybody to independently verify these results. Perhaps more 
> importantly, we can't tell whether the data set used to produce these 
> results is similar to the sorts of XML data we're working with or 
> not. We don't know whether these results would likely be reproducible 
> in our own environments.


How expensive would it be for the authors of this paper to create a new
set of test documents vaguely similar (in terms of some metrics) to the
"unpublishable" ones, and then re-run the tests and publish the new
results?  Actually, the new test data wouldn't need to resemble the
current test data - how much it does is up to the authors.  But the new
results would be more useful and interesting than the current ones.

Alessandro Triglia
OSS Nokalva


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