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Re: namespace reprise

• To: Dare Obasanjo <dareo@m...>, xml-dev@l...
• Subject: Re: namespace reprise
• From: "Emmanuil Batsis (Manos)" <mbatsis@h...>
• Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2002 06:12:18 +0300
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Dare Obasanjo wrote:

>However since they are URIs they are simply identifiers and not
>locations so the argument doesn't hold as much water.  
>

My complete argument proposed URLs in the case of actually pointing to 
usefull documents, or a non fetch-oriented URI scheme in the case a 
namespace was only used as a name.
Please explain why doesn't this hold much water.

>>Another thing that bothers me is the rough edges concerning 
>>APIs. Most 
>>APIs handle namespaces in a really stupid way. Even XPath in XSLT 
>>(which, IMHO is by far the best in it's anticipation of namespaces 
>>thanks to the according axis) is incapable of dynamically producing 
>>namespaces and one must know the default namespace to match 
>>the desired 
>>nodes.. 
>>    
>>
>
>What do you mean by dynamically producing namespaces? 
>

I meant producing a namespace URI-prefix pair for the result document 
when that namespace is not declared in either the source or XSLT document.

>Also, if I'm not wrong, if there are no namespace 
>  
>
>>declarations 
>>then XSLT anticipates the empty string as the default 
>>namespace (but one 
>>may correct me in this one). Surelly this is another rec but if 
>>namespaces are not implemented consistently and effisiently in other 
>>applications then there must be something wrong with them ;-)
>>    
>>
>
>XPath doesn't understand default namespaces and thus I don't think XSLT
>does either. 
>

Yes that's what I said? Unless you are supporting my views mentioning 
XSLT wants a namespace *and* a local name to match such a node, even if 
that node is just on the default document namespace (unless you hack it 
with *:localName and yes that is a hack IMHO).

My point was the implementation detail of handling no-namespace with an 
empty string (or a URI of length 0 if you preffer).

Manos

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