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Hey Stefano, all, looking forward to your post. Integrating XForms into XHTML is actually very straight-forward. The W3C XForms Working Group spun out of the HTML WG some time ago, so apart from allowing XForms to be integrated into any XML language, the focus also was on making it easy to integrate into (X)HTML. And I fully agree with the client becoming the final frontier for now. The flash folks are barely starting to learn the basics like "Yes, you can use CSS on top of XML and be done with it". If all you've got is a hammer then everything is a nail. So things you can easily do with e.g XML and CSS are being rebuild from scratch in Flash. Until the knowledge reaches those people. Now XML for them is about storing data, or objects, over the net. When that data is structured text, the main weakness of flash, handling text, becomes a problem or means just more flash-coding to do. Using CSS for a view, or XSLT to transform into any other XML-UI language, or XForms for both view and edit, is a real mind-blower to the flash people - something hard to do becomes really simple. Now if you can still use Actionscript (essentially Ecmascript by now) on top of XHTML/CSS/XForms to allow that extra freedom if you need it, you give those people their dream platform - the simple things simple, the hard things possible. - Sebastian Hello guys, I especially agree it is very good to have xml-dev. And I agree some fun is likely to come soon both on the client developers side AND on the XML visionaries side, the more these two ends tend to touch (the marketing-driven hairy-and-mundane-aware short TTL presentation vs. the vision of the value of content, reusability, interoperability and awareness of history repeating itself) >>http://webaccess.mozquito.com/_progress/dengprogress.html Seems very interesting I will check it out very soon, my experience with XForms so far was to leave that be until it's made easier for me to understand how to integrate it with HTML. So my XForms Flash MX component became a XHTML+CSS component (like if it was an IFRAME in a MM movie) for the sake of the summer and of project completion, I will post an URL as soon as the B2C site that was built upon it goes live, in a few days ciao ste Manos Batsis wrote: >>From: Sebastian Schnitzenbaumer [mailto:schnitz@m...] > > >>A bunch of people including myself have therefore embarked on a >>mission to build an XHTML/CSS/XForms user agent in Flash. > > > Yup, Stefano Debenedetti has talked about this project. Say hi for me > please ;-) > > > >>It might work. We'll see. Performance will be the issue. Here's a >>really early alpha: >>http://webaccess.mozquito.com/_progress/dengprogress.html > > > Not bad at all! > > > Manos > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > The xml-dev list is sponsored by XML.org <http://www.xml.org>, an > initiative of OASIS <http://www.oasis-open.org> > > The list archives are at http://lists.xml.org/archives/xml-dev/ > > To subscribe or unsubscribe from this list use the subscription > manager: <http://lists.xml.org/ob/adm.pl> > >
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