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• From: "Fuchs, Matthew" <matthew.fuchs@c...>
• To: 'Tim Bray' <tbray@t...>, xml-dev@l...
• Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 17:36:49 -0700

There is a version of Guy Steele's utterly brilliant OOPSLA98 keynote at:
http://www.sun.com/research/jtech/pubs/98-oopsla-growing.ps  Everyone should
read this.  I did not have the pleasure of hearing it in the flesh (first
saw it referenced from Phil Wadler's web page), but it is a brilliant
discourse on the value of starting small.

Matthew

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tim Bray [mailto:tbray@t...]
> Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 4:24 PM
> To: xml-dev@l...
> Subject: RE: An open plea to the W3C (was Re: XInclude vs SAX vs
> 
> 
> At 03:57 PM 27/08/01 -0700, Fuchs, Matthew wrote:
> >(However, as an aside on this topic, as an undergrad I had a 
> classmate whose
> >summer job was writing test cases for the Ada validation 
> suite.  She assured
> >me [incorrectly] that it would be at least 10 years before 
> anyone had an
> >approved Ada compiler.  Of course, I later did grad work at 
> NYU, where I got
> >to hobnob with the people who wrote that first compiler! ;-)
> 
> Hmm, my memory seems to tell me that the first wave of Ada 
> compilers were quite a bit more robust and reliable than the first 
> few releases of Java.  On the other hand, they didn't include a 
> virtual machine.  On another hand, my mental image of Java 1.0 is
> as of a fairly stripped down language with not a lot of fat, while
> Ada suffered from severe complete-ism from day one.
> 
> Another victory for those who dared to do less. -Tim
> 
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