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  • From: David LeBlanc <whisper@o...>
  • To: Ramin Firoozye <ramin@w...>, xml-dev@l...
  • Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 12:36:33 -0800

I've often thought that the convention was something like:
ANNOUNCE (Commercial) yada yada yada....

This way the purists could just delete what they're not interested in, and
those of us wanting it can look at it.

Dave LeBlanc

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ramin Firoozye [mailto:ramin@w...]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2001 11:51 AM
> To: xml-dev@l...
> Subject: RE: ANNOUNCE
> I'm glad this came up. I am a long-time lurker on this list and personally
> appreciate hearing about both commercial and open-source offerings. We are
> about to announce our own XML-based commercial product any day
> now and I was
> planning on posting a courtesy message on this list.
> My understanding was that as long as the message was clearly marked (say
> with 'ANN' or 'ANNOUNCE' in the subject line) it was OK. However,
> if this is
> something people are violently opposed to, we'll be good netizens
> and won't
> post anything.
> I'm hoping there is a clear consensus (or even better, a
> directive from the
> list managers) on this.
> Any thoughts?
> Regards,
> Ramin Firoozye'
> Wizen Software
> >
> > On Tue, 30 Jan 2001, Robert C. Lyons wrote:
> > > Perhaps I'm in the minority, but I welcome
> > > announcements of new software products (and
> > > new freeware) that are related to XML
> > > development.
> >
> > There is a big difference between announcing
> > the availability of open source software which
> > I can learn from, and announcing the release
> > of a new/improved closed source program which
> > I cannot freely use, adapt, and modify.
> >
> > If every XML related commercial product were
> > announced here, the noise ratio would be
> > extremely high... and to let one commercial
> > vendor announce without chastisement is
> > just plain unfair.
> >
> > Further, when ever open source products
> > are announced here they are usually announced
> > by regular participants -- on average commercial
> > announcemnts are made by individuals who have
> > shared very little with the serious content
> > expressed on this list.
> >
> > Lastly, there is a captive audience of serious
> > professionals here. A post costs us all a good
> > deal of time ($$).  I'm here beacuse I expect to
> > receive e-mail from my peers.  Commercial vendors
> > are not paying for me to see their advertisements.
> > Are they?  Why should they be privleged with
> > advertising rights upon a medium which they have
> > not built.
> >
> > I hope this helps explain how I and I think
> > many other people on this list feel.
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > Clark
> >


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