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Re: ANNOUNCE: XML::RSS 0.2

• From: "Dave Winer" <dave@u...>
• To: "Jonathan Eisenzopf" <eisen@p...>
• Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 14:07:33 -0700

I don't know, I think most writers are serious about writing and most of
them don't care about XML. If you want to be able to do fun things with the
stuff they write, you have to meet them where they live, or as close to that
as possible.

About XMLNews, I've tried to get wrapped around what it's doing, and I can't
figure it out. An XMLNews for Newbies document would be a really good idea,
if they want their format to catch on.

Dave

----- Original Message -----
From: Jonathan Eisenzopf <eisen@p...>
To: Dave Winer <dave@u...>
Cc: <xml-dev@i...>
Sent: Monday, July 26, 1999 12:58 PM
Subject: Re: ANNOUNCE: XML::RSS 0.2


> Dave Winer wrote:
>
> > 6/20/99: A collection of scripts, in Frontier, Java, AppleScript, Perl,
Cold
> > Fusion, PHP and Tcl, that produce a ScriptingNews 2.0b1 format
syndication
> > file from a plain text format that's easy for writers to work with.
> >
> > http://my.userland.com/stories/storyReader$14
> >
> > RSS and ScriptingNews format are evolving to a single format, so as we
go
> > forward, we'll update this page with more scripts in many popular
languages
> > that can be used to manage XML-based content from plain text. This is
key as
> > syndication goes forward, you should work in a "meta-meta" format,
because
> > there will always be new "standards". That's the way this stuff works!
> >
>
> Er, ok. Who is we? Is there a group mothering this? I believe that
generating
> XML headlines from plain text should only be used to help people in the
> transition from plain text to XML. If writers are seriously opposed to
writing
> raw XML, give them a tool with "fill in the blanks" functionality.
Converting
> to XML from plain text is not such a big deal for a simple format like
RSS, but
> stepping up to something like XMLNews would be rediculous.
>
> Also, I'm glad you brought up the RSS vs. ScriptingNews format. I've been
> somewhat irritated at Netscape's lack of support for RSS. There is a blurb
of
> possible future directions, however, I'm not convinced it will be worth
waiting
> for. BTW, I did, in fact, look at the ScriptingNews format. While it is a
step
> forward, it won't stand up to the requirements of basic news syndication.
I
> think we need to be preparing for the scenario where information is
distributed
> on syndicated networks or feeds.
>
> I believe XMLNews or the NITF standard is a more appropriate format for
> distributing news (see http://www.xmlnews.org). Since I am in agreement
with
> you that I should be focusing on a "meta-meta" format, I am exploring the
> possibility of using and extending XMLNews-Meta as a replacement for RSS.
I
> provided the XML::RSS Perl module as a convenience to those who are
currently
> using RSS to create and distrubute news headlines, as well as read and
display
> them on the Web.
>
> I'd be interested to hear what others on this list are thinking along
these
> lines. Is there a better alternative to RSS and ScriptingNews besides
XMLNews?
>
> Jonathan.
>
>
>
>
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