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----- Original Message ----- From: adam moore <paxamr@u...> To: Steve Oldmeadow <smo@j...> Cc: <xml-dev@i...> Sent: 06/05/1999 6:34 Subject: Re: XML-Conformant Programming Languages > On Thu, 6 May 1999, Steve Oldmeadow wrote: > Surely this is exactly what DTD's can do - 'organize the constructs of a > language' - and with a DTD and something like Xeena from IBM I think it's > possible now? (Xeena is an editor that uses a DTD to constrain the authors > into only writing valid syntax: http://www.alphaworks.ibm.com/tech/xeena). I apologise. I was expecting too much from the grammar alone but my point still is a language with out the tools to interpret it is not very useful. Take writing an XSL processor as an example, does being able to parse an XSL document into a DOM tree help you with writing an XSL processor? I don't think it does. How useful is XSL without XSL processors? > > > As far as "Visual Programming" environments go (especially for "non > > programmers") I think it is invaluable to have the ability to step through > > the code and see what is happening which implies an IDE rather than a simple > > editor. > > > I agree - but to have a tool which ONLY LETS YOU WRITE VALID CODE IN THE > FIRST PLACE will surely be a big leap up from trying to debug code you > wrote in a standard editor and then try and find the typo's/missing > separators/line-breaks/etc.? I think it has a lot to do with the complexity of the language. With Joshua's example of a Lisp program I can certainly see how a DTD constrained editor would be fine. However, if someone gave me the DTD for Java and said I can use Xeena or JBuilder I would choose JBuilder. I wouldn't even want to imagine what writing C++ would be like under Xeena! Steve Oldmeadow xml-dev: A list for W3C XML Developers. To post, mailto:xml-dev@i... Archived as: http://www.lists.ic.ac.uk/hypermail/xml-dev/ and on CD-ROM/ISBN 981-02-3594-1 To (un)subscribe, mailto:majordomo@i... the following message; (un)subscribe xml-dev To subscribe to the digests, mailto:majordomo@i... the following message; subscribe xml-dev-digest List coordinator, Henry Rzepa (mailto:rzepa@i...)
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