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  • To: "Didier PH Martin" <martind@n...>,"Eric van der Vlist" <vdv@d...>,"Mike Champion" <mc@x...>
  • Subject: RE: Rethinking namespaces, attribute remapping (was Re: TAG on HLink)
  • From: "Dare Obasanjo" <dareo@m...>
  • Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2002 08:02:18 -0700
  • Cc: <xml-dev@l...>
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  • Thread-topic: Rethinking namespaces, attribute remapping (was Re: TAG on HLink)

RE:  Rethinking namespaces
When I say easy for Joe Blow to grasp I assume the XHTML working group will produce a specific HLink mapping file which will become the de jure standard. I wouldn't be surprised if every XHTML 2.0 user simply cut and paste something akin to 
 
<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml <http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml> "
hlink:definition="http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml2/CanonicalHlinkMappings"
 
in the same manner people cut & paste HTML DOCTYPE decls without understanding how they worked. I sincerely doubt that the average user will ever need to know HLink exists or how to use it if XHTML 2.0 ships with it. 

	-----Original Message----- 
	From: Didier PH Martin [mailto:martind@n...] 
	Sent: Fri 9/27/2002 7:34 AM 
	To: Dare Obasanjo; 'Eric van der Vlist'; 'Mike Champion' 
	Cc: xml-dev@l... 
	Subject: RE:  Rethinking namespaces, attribute remapping (was Re: TAG on HLink)
	
	

	Hi Dare,
	
	Dare said:
	<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"
	hlink:definition=http://www.example.org/whatever...
	
	Advantages: Modular, easy for Joe Blow to use without understanding how
	it works
	Disadvantages: Security issues, information necessary to process
	document no longer self contained
	
	Didier replies:
	I am not so sure about if what you said as an advantage is really one. I
	tested with a real joe Blow (i.e. somebody that knows a bit about XML
	and a lot about HTML) and he got some difficulties to grasp the mapping
	process. It is probably easier for someone used to object inheritance as
	commonly used in object languages or to someone who learned about
	architectural forms :-)
	
	I have also some questions.
	a) Would this implies that XSLT 2.0 should support such mapping in order
	to be able to process documents. For instance, to match with a link
	element and be aware that in fact, it should match with an object
	element (which is mapped to a link element)?.
	b)Would this imply that XSLT 1.0 is broken when we think of processing
	XHTML 2.0 documents (with the Hlink mapping)?
	c) if the mapping document is external to the document to be processed,
	why then not use a DTD including architectural form declaration to
	perform the mapping?
	d) are slowly following a path where documents are no longer self
	sufficient?
	e) have reached the limits of the original axioms?
	f) Are we brain damaged? :-) :-), just kidding :-)
	
	
	Cheers
	Didier PH Martin
	
	
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