RE: Rethinking namespaces, attribute remapping (was Re: [xml-d
Emotions thrill and enable. As long as you are making progress, let them ride. Really offensive stuff will kick off the list filters. :-) A concise description of the "mess" minus the "how" is wanted. We're all just beavers. If the dam is leaking, best to stop the leak first and not worry about how or which beavers put in a bad log. The current attractor seems to be arch form style remapping vs namespaces with the lakshman rekha being self-descriptive vs augmented documents. Is that it? As I recall, one aspect of groves and topic maps (can't be more precise than that) was that the means by which identity is established had to be explicitly denoted. We've just seen a long round on the identity issues which might just be "what are the explicit properties of a document and how are they established" discussion which is a lot like the PSVI. I am wondering if there is a nugget here that is shared by all of these issues. We don't seem to be able to have an efficient self-descriptive document and we don't want to accept augmentation via external documents (eg, DTDs, schemas). Is this an impasse that can be met by compromises in certain applications, but only narrowly and for a given application, but otherwise, kicks off the same discussion for any new problem? I am beginning to believe that attempting to work with self-descriptive systems for any given problem in every case is a non-starter. Well-formedness simply isn't enough for interoperability; portability, yes, but not interoperability. len From: Simon St.Laurent [mailto:simonstl@s...] I'm still waiting for an open explanation of how we got into this mess in the first place, and why the TAG so unanimously opted to reject HLink. We're missing a lot of context that would help clear technical discussion, so don't be surprised that you're getting a lot of emotions.
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