• To: "Dare Obasanjo" <dareo@m...>
• Subject: RE: Comparable considered necessary
• From: "Manos Batsis" <m.batsis@b...>
• Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2002 12:05:02 +0300
• Cc: <xml-dev@l...>
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• Thread-topic: Comparable considered necessary

> From: Dare Obasanjo [mailto:dareo@m...] 

> The example was purposely simplistic to illustrate a point. 
> You and Manos have failed to see the point which indicates 
> that it is probably more subtle than I thought. It isn't 
> worth going into a lengthy exposition about though so I'll 
> just leave it at "An identifier is not a location". 

Dare, that quote means nothing to me. An identifier is just that and it's roles can be many, while I am interested in DNS based schemes. You have only used XML Names and XML Schemas for your arguments; their case is just a fragment of URI use and I'm only forced to use the first nowdays. I don't care about case sensitivity in XML Names; I do care about identifying resources, something that XML Names failed to do miserably (along with the mistake of using http URIs that are supposed to be addressable).


> Feel free to disagree. 

Thanks!

Manos




>  
>  
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Bill de hÓra [mailto:bill.dehora@p...] 
> Sent: Mon 8/12/2002 1:41 AM 
> To: Dare Obasanjo; 'Manos Batsis' 
> Cc: xml-dev@l... 
> Subject: RE:  Comparable considered necessary
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 	> -----Original Message-----
> 	> From: Dare Obasanjo [mailto:dareo@m...]
> 	>
> 	> You miss the point. An identifier is not a location.
> 	
> 	This is not completely true in the http: scheme.
> 	
> 	 
> 	> I could quite easily come up with two schemas, one with a
> 	> target namespace of http://www.25hoursaday.com that describes
> 	> myself as a GA Tech alumni and http://WWW.25hoursaday.COM
> 	> which describes my CD collection. Now there is no question
> 	> that both of these URLs refer to the same location on the web
> 	> yet  neither is there any question that they identify
> 	> different things.
> 	
> 	Web dereferencing is lossy; big deal. Be more 
> discerning in your choice
> 	of schema names.
> 	
> 	
> 	> PS: Case insensitivity is a red herring. The example could
> 	> easily use URL escaping or raw IP vs. domain name.
> 	
> 	Perhaps you shouldn't be throwing herrings about then.
> 	
> 	regards,
> 	Bill de hÓra
> 	..
> 	Propylon
> 	www.propylon.com
> 	
> 	
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