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Re: Re: validating hairy data models (was Attribute

• To: Jeff Lowery <jlowery@s...>,'Christian Nentwich ' <c.nentwich@c...>
• Subject: Re: Re: validating hairy data models (was Attribute order)
• From: Paul Tchistopolskii <pault12@p...>
• Date: Sat, 08 Dec 2001 01:55:36 -0600
• Cc: xml-dev@l...
• References: <3549BAFD79A7D411A1CF00508B62B5BC0124B92B@e...>

> I guess the question I'm asking is that if the document looks like XML
(has
> XML syntax and is well-formed)

If the document has XML syntax and is well-formed, it is always
possible to process it with  almost any existing XML tools, such
as XSLT, SAX, DOM, e t.c.

> but the data model is specified in such a way
>  that no off-the-shelf tools can with certainty handle it (along the lines
> of, say, the spec declaring attribute order to be significant, or elements
> {X,Y,Z} being allowed to appear anywhere, any number of times, in any
order,
> including within other ordered element content models, or namespaces not
> being used merely to disambiguate, but as a mechanism to insert private
> elements and attributes anywhere within a document, etc.),

What do you mean by 'off-the-shelf' tools ?

Also, it appears to me that you place a roundtripping of XML
infoset as the only possible use of XML. This is not the only
possible usecase.

> then is it really
> any more useful than any other arbitrary document syntax? Why even use
XML?

To leverage XML tools.

> Oh, I know-- marketing. Duh.

I think it is just a pragmatic desire to leverage existing
XML tools, not re-inventing the wheel one more time
every time.

I'd like to understand what particular problem do you see
with well-formed XML documents that are "not XML"

What makes a well-formed XML document "not XML" ?

I don't get it.

Rgds.Paul.

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