Re: XML and SML
From: James Robertson <jamesr@s...> >An open letter to Rick Jelliffe, >However, I don't think you expected >it to be the catalyst for just such >a "cut down" proposal just hours later! Yes, in the future everyone will be on the XML WG for fifteen minutes. Let us not forget that LISP S-expressions (parenthesis) have been around for 35 years; they are simple and can be used for markup, but they didn't take off for that use. And Borenstein has that RFC on a markup language that is simpler than XML and just used elements: it has been around for ages and has gone nowhere for documents. I think the internationalization in XML is one of the major reasons larger companies like it: it provides an integration path from current encodings to Unicode--people who think it is now time to have only UTF-8 have their heads in the sand: so we need encoding headers & NCRs & attributes (to support language) as a minimum requirement for i18n IMHO. If there is a strong need for a simpler markup language, I think it needs to target a particular issue in which XML is weak: difficulty of implementation just isn't one of them. Who are these poor implementers of parsers we need to be so concerned about: IBM? Sun? Microsoft? James Clark has not conspicuously favoured simple software projects. In what way is it simpler to make up a new markup language, document it, write a parser and API for it, compared to using XP or one of the Java parsers? The area where there is scope for a new markup language is for large tables of fielded data in which every field is the same: now I know that compression takes care of this really, but some people still freak out when they see markup: *but* there is a recent RFC this month on such a language. It is a nice language, but if you compare it to XML you can see the maturity of the SGML/XML community in comparison. The debate about a simpler XML is just a waste of time. Where are the people debating about a simpler XML Schema proposal! That is something where people might have some impact? Anders and Len are doing something useful bringing up these schema issues. With all respect, but I hope that people who want SML should move to SML-DEV: I already get over 200 emails a day. Jokes are welcome but not farces. Rick Jelliffe xml-dev: A list for W3C XML Developers. To post, mailto:xml-dev@i... Archived as: http://www.lists.ic.ac.uk/hypermail/xml-dev/ and on CD-ROM/ISBN 981-02-3594-1 To unsubscribe, mailto:majordomo@i... the following message; unsubscribe xml-dev To subscribe to the digests, mailto:majordomo@i... the following message; subscribe xml-dev-digest List coordinator, Henry Rzepa (mailto:rzepa@i...)
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